2018 Senate (& House)

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, Mar 22, 2017.

  1. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I think that's a pretty good insight, OUBubba.
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Even a broken clock . . .
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    If you're a Democrat, Roy Moore is the gift that just keeps on giving. Link.
     
  4. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I grew up in a small town. We had some cattle and worked them but I was no "cowyboy" with the horses. Some of my small town folks on the facebook enjoyed critiquing his horse riding display. Kind of funny.

    Glad he keeps on giving.
     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  8. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Update on Menendez. The District Judge ruled last week that the most serious allegations lacked merit as a matter of law and couldn't be retried. He also ruled that certain evidence was inadmissible. Based on these rulings, the DOJ has dropped all charges.
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They should come try it in Texas
     
  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    If the charges lacked merit as a matter of law, then I don't see how that would make a difference. The Texas jury's verdict would get set aside.
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Didnt it already go to trial once?
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yes, but if the allegations lacked merit as a matter of law, the case is going to be taken away from the jury and judgment rendered for the defendant. That would have been true, even if the jury had found him guilty.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If that were true, it should have been handled pre-trial
     
  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Perhaps, but I think some judges don't like to toss cases without a trial and want to give plaintiffs or prosecutors the opportunity to put on their case, even if they're skeptical. Having said that, why not grant a directed verdict after the prosecution rests? Did the defendants not ask for one? If the case was that meritless and they didn't ask for one, that's some sloppy lawyering. Maybe they wanted to bill Menendez and his buddy for a few more days by putting on their case. lol
     
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It sounds like you are better versed in this case than me. Did the trial judge change? Did any controlling law change while it was pending? (I have seen both these things happen)
     
  16. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Sometimes, a judge will deny a borderline motion for directed verdict because a defense verdict is harder to get around on appeal. In the event of a plaintiff/guilty jury verdict (or a mistrial), then and only then will the judge put his neck on the line by throwing out the claims/charges.
     
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  17. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    For what it's worth, I think Menendez's conduct was sleazy as hell, and should be illegal. But I don't think it was illegal under McDonnell v. US, which sets the bar ridiculously high for public corruption charges.
     
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  18. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    No change in law, no change in judge.
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    So is he going to get primaried?
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    By a 14-yr old Domincan
     
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  21. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Only one other candidate has formally announced, and he's a no-name who runs for governor every year. I don't think he's ever managed to get 0.1% of the vote.

    I have heard rumblings that party leaders are trying to push him out, but nothing public has come out to the best of my knowledge.
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Monmouth University polling suggests the purported Dem lead in generic House ballot has collapsed from a 15-point lead to 2. In one month.
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    On top of Party money (or lack of it), is that the Koch Brothers plan to spend $400 million on GOP races

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  24. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Drain the swamp?
     
  25. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    The original SNL skit was pretty accurate. It's "fill the swamp".
     
  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Was this polling before or after the SOTU?
     
  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  28. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    So this was before the SOTU. After the Democrat **** show those idiots put on it has to be even worse.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Seems so. It does include Tuesday (30th) within the 3 days, which I am going to guess means it was all concluded prior to the nighttime speech
     
  30. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yeah, I'm sure it was already done before the evening.
     

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