2019 Transfer Season

Discussion in 'Women’s Basketball' started by jusme828, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. Ellis21d

    Ellis21d JediHorn

    Another Big surprise for me was that Braxton Miller left Ok state and went to Ohio State! She was a big part of that team’s scoring.
     
  2. BBV_Horn

    BBV_Horn 1,000+ Posts

    Cannot see this link, can you post a screenshot of it?
     
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  3. DFW_Horn

    DFW_Horn 2,500+ Posts

    USC confirmed that 6 players are leaving plus Nell Fortner swiped one of their assistants, Blanche Alverson, who played for Nell at Auburn. I’d love to see the Longhorns add a seasoned PG but with Sug entrenched as the starter, I doubt Texas has much of a shot at rising junior PG Minyon Moore, USC’s second leading scorer (14.8) and leader in assists (5.9), rebounds (5.5) and steals (2.6).
     
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  4. GameOfHorns

    GameOfHorns 100+ Posts

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  5. BALL IS LIFE

    BALL IS LIFE 25+ Posts

    I know I'll sound like that 50 year old but in my opinion some of these ladies EXPECT to play instead of EARNING the right to play. When you are told everyday by relatives, friends and AAU coaches how good you are in high school that sometimes doesn't translate to the NCAA game. I only get concerned these days when players start leaving due to a toxic environment, which thank goodness isn't the case we have here at UT..
     
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  6. kurupt

    kurupt 500+ Posts

    I agree to a certain extent. Some do expect to play instead of earning it and IMO Texas experienced that with the last recruiting class. But I also feel that these players only have four years to get it right and they can’t play for 20 years like a coach can coach. And when these coaches started getting paid really well even in women’s basketball a lot of the “ education” part went out the window.

    I think coaches will have to start really doing their research on these recruits. Not just their physical abilities but also their makeup mentally. Which is what I think Coach Aston has started to do with the recruits that are coming in 2019 and beyond. Recruiting talented players with great work ethics on and off the court that bring it everyday in practice or games that also understand that they will have to earn the right to play.

    Like I said before low maintenance players. All you have to is read the comments from Celeste, and Isabel, for 2019. And Ashley, and Shay, for 2020 they understand. I think that coach Aston got caught up in star chasing and not really examining how the players would fit into the program from a mental standpoint.
     
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  7. GameOfHorns

    GameOfHorns 100+ Posts

    Respectfully, I agree that these athletes expect to play (as do their parents), but I also believe the sudden and rampant exits are symptomatic of a larger systemic problem. Not sure what the problem is exactly, or how to fix, but I’m more on the side of Debbie Antonelli on the issue. What I often (thankfully not always) witnessed in my sport, as a riding coach, was an unwillingness to do the work and earn opportunities, and parents pushing and conniving for, and essentially “buying” their child’s limited successes. Those types of kids (and their parents) rarely stuck it out, often losing interest altogether, or thinking that the grass was greener elsewhere. My sport is a whole other “ball game,” but I do sense a similarity in attitude. And again, thankfully the majority of athletes don’t seem to take this approach.
     
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  8. BALL IS LIFE

    BALL IS LIFE 25+ Posts

    I think your whole statement nailed it. Seems like KA and staff are going after "grinders" now. I thought they were mentally soft last year but think next years team will be much better.
     
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  9. overseasbbfan1

    overseasbbfan1 1,000+ Posts

    It's a pretty simple problem but not an easy fix. Obviously you have to work, and take your game to another level once you hit the college ranks. This includes learning to play defense, something that takes commitment, and that can be difficult for players who are used to scoring every time they touch the ball. More difficult for some that others I should add. In other cases it's simply a matter of waiting for your turn. It's a strange dynamic because many top recruits want to go to teams that have a strong recent history, but those are also (often) the same teams with top players already entrenched as starters. But if a star recruit wants a guaranteed starting role from day one, there are at least 250 programs out there that would be happy to oblige :smile1:! I do think some coaches are complicit in the problem as they'll say whatever is necessary to land a top recruit, and then change their tune once the player is a part of the program. Some may not actually promise anyone a starting role, but they'll say things like..."anything is possible"...or "all stating positions are open".....or even give examples of previous freshmen who did see significant playing time from the outset. While all of that may be true, it is also setting expectations for a scenario that isn't likely to occur. Personally, (and I understand they're necessary, though perhaps not to the degree many believe) a large part of the problem are all of the "extra" entities involved in a top player's career these days...AAU programs and coaches, recruiting services etc. The best parents are those that tell their daughters, "don't believe the hype, you aren't that special, lots of players out there better than you, get back in the gym and get to work." And that's a good strategy for parents even if their daughter is "that good." Because you can always get better, no matter who you are.
     
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  10. flash34

    flash34 500+ Posts

    SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Notre Dame might lose another scholarship player after Danielle Patterson announced her intention to transfer.

    Patterson was one of six scholarship players coach Muffet McGraw figured to use in rebuilding her lineup after each member of the starting five from last season was among the first 19 picks of the WNBA draft. Patterson, a 6-foot-3 sophomore forward from New York, announced her intention to enter the NCAA transfer portal on her Twitter account.

    "It has been a privilege to wear Notre Dame across my chest, but the time has come for me to say goodbye and move on," Patterson tweeted.
     
  11. LutherIsMyDog

    LutherIsMyDog 1,000+ Posts

    Lady Vols lose another player

     
  12. GameOfHorns

    GameOfHorns 100+ Posts

    How many players have they lost in this transition? Love what Harper was doing at MSU, and hope she can replicate and improve on those successes at utenn. She was a heck of a player for her alma mater.
     
  13. DFW_Horn

    DFW_Horn 2,500+ Posts

    Danielle Patterson has landed at Indiana - I think that’s the 3rd ND player to transfer to IU in as many seasons.

    Tennessee’s Evina Westbrook transferred to UCONN.
     
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  14. flash34

    flash34 500+ Posts

    Marta Sniezek has transfered from Stanford to Notre Dame and can play immediately. She was injured last year but started about half the games in previous years.
     
  15. flash34

    flash34 500+ Posts

    According to ESPNW, Tennessee has boosted its frontcourt depth by adding junior college transfer Jaiden McCoy. Since the Horns play Tennessee in December, this is kinda important to us. McCoy, a 6-foot-3 center, began summer classes at Tennessee on Thursday and will be eligible to play for the Lady Vols during the upcoming season. Tennessee coach Kellie Harper said in a statement that McCoy "is a solid post player who has the ability to finish around the paint as well as knock down an outside shot." McCoy averaged 10.9 points and 6.1 rebounds this past season at Northwest Florida State College. She played only four games in 2017-18 before breaking her hip.
     
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  16. DFW_Horn

    DFW_Horn 2,500+ Posts

    NFSC? So a teammate of Rellah Boothe for a very brief time.
     
  17. LutherIsMyDog

    LutherIsMyDog 1,000+ Posts

    Raoul (who's Twitter account is private) has the following updates on players who have just entered the transfer portal; (Nixon is a teammate of Celeste Taylor on the USA U19 team.)

    WBB: Hearing that Notre Dame point guard Jordan Nixon is in the transfer portal. She played in 26 games as a freshman in 2018-19, starting 3 and averaging 2.5 PPG in 14.5 MPG. She was ranked in the top 40 in the 2018 class and chose ND over UCLA, Georgia, Ohio State, and UVA.

    WBB: Hearing that Gabby Crawford (6-2 FR forward, Munford, TN) from Ole Miss is in the transfer portal. She played in 28 games during the 2018-19 season, starting 6 and and averaging 3.5 PPG and 3.7 RPG in 15.3 MPG. Crawford was ranked #80 in the 2018 class by espnW.
     
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  18. Moooooo

    Moooooo 2,500+ Posts

    Did not expect this outcome:

     
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  19. brnkj

    brnkj 1,000+ Posts

    You and I typically vehemently disagree... but I'm with you on this one. How in the HELL did this happen?
     
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  20. Jacob Johnson

    Jacob Johnson 100+ Posts

    The ncaa really needs to tighten up this transfer thing or just get rid of it as a whole. It's ruining the game of basketball. How do 18 players receive waivers and 3 don't. The girls from g tech that went to Louisville definitely should not have received a waiver as well as Braxton Miller. Karisma ortiz had a legit reason to transfer as well as westbrook. Sedona prince better not get a waiver either if ortiz can't get one
     
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  21. DFW_Horn

    DFW_Horn 2,500+ Posts

    Bre’Amber Scott leaving Miss St. A good shooter/contributor off the bench last season - assume she transfers after the fall semester so she’s eligible to play in Spring 2021.

     
  22. racerx5908

    racerx5908 1,000+ Posts

    MSU pulls in top ranked recruits and also has un-explained departures, almost at the same rate. To leave just 2 weeks into your season? It's becoming more common.
     
  23. Jacob Johnson

    Jacob Johnson 100+ Posts

    A sad reality these days. I don't know her story personally but I 100% agree with what Karen aston said today in the press conference that it should be you commit and you stick to what you started instead of coming in not getting what you want & you up and leave. Only reason to transfer would be if something really bad was happening in your program or of course family reasons other than that you finish what you start
     
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  24. brnkj

    brnkj 1,000+ Posts

    Wow...didn't expect this. She was actually one of my favorite players on their team last year. She was very productive in her role last year.
     
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  25. brnkj

    brnkj 1,000+ Posts

    I feel if a coach leaves, that should give the players that committed to them an open door to exit if they so choose. After all... more than anything else it's the COACH that the players commit to playing for.
     
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  26. racerx5908

    racerx5908 1,000+ Posts

    I believe that all players should be given a one-time freebie pass when transferring once. But on the flip side, what if a whole team departs and follows that coach? Aston leaves North Texas and comes to UT Austin. There was a coaching change. And if her stars transferred (followed her to UT) with the excuse there was a coaching change........
     
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  27. Jacob Johnson

    Jacob Johnson 100+ Posts

    Yes I agree if a coach leaves then players involved should be allowed to transfer if they choose to do so like karisma ortiz definitely should have been approved considering some of the waivers they gave out. Its something the NCAA needs to be consistent with and tighten up because right now its a mess
     
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  28. brnkj

    brnkj 1,000+ Posts

    Good point! Perhaps impose a standard limit across the board to ensure there are still enough players left to field a team, and allow those on a "first come first served" basis?
     
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  29. cynt

    cynt 500+ Posts

    A have a few ideas on college transfers. I don't know if it's a one size fits all solution when it comes to transferring but I do believe some new parameters should be put in place.

    First, I think the summer after their junior and especially senior year in high school they should spend a summer session at the committed university as a trial run. Real practices, weight room, classes, one on one with the coaches and teammates, etc. So summer session 1 they go to their number one school. Give them a summer session to see if this is a good fit for the student athlete and the coach. They can go to their 2nd choice school at summer session 2 or continue on at their 1st choice school. Let them get their feet wet, let them experience college life, life with teammates, student life during these summer sessions at 2 different schools. Kind of like you never know who you married until you live with them. Open interview, open door policy for that summer session. The student athlete can stay with #1 choice school or leave and the Coach can also change their mind on whether or not they want to keep the student athlete. It's a trial period on both sides. So the expectation is everyone is trying to do their best and all the novelty will wear off after the first week of practice and you get to see what kind of student athlete they are as well as they get to see what kind of school, coach, team and student life they are committing to for 4 years.

    I've always said a weekend at the college campus IS NOT ENOUGH TIME to make a 4 year commitment. These kids are 14, 15, 16, 17 and making 4 year commitments. They are not old enough nor wise enough to make that kind of decision. Of course I expect most of them to transfer in this instant gratification generation. So I'm never surprised when a top recruit transfers. That's just their generation. I'm a 70s kid you work hard until you obtain what you want. I'm at a job right now and I'm fighting tooth and nail and interviewing within the company to move up. Yes, I could leave the company and find something else but I have my eye on the prize at the current company so I'm paying my dues now, knowing that the reward latter will be greater. Unfortunately these kids don't think like that. They want everything RIGHT NOW. I have a coworker that has a student athlete and I listen to her on the phone with her Jr in college. OMG!! 3 different universities. Spoiled rotten. She can't tell them no and she treats them like they're 5. She tells them when to take a nap, how and when to study, she speaks for them to their coaches hence 3 different universities. SMH!! But that's how that generation is being raised. Let me clarify. Not all persons are being raised like this but some are being raised like this.

    Everyone gets one pass and can play immediately but they have to pay 1/2 of their tuition and books for one semester at the new school. Let them have to make a sacrifice and put a lil' skin in the game and their parents. My parents would tell me, girl you're staying at school number one. Suck it up and figure it out. LOL!!

    2nd transfer wait one year and pay 1/2 your tuition and books for the remainder of your time at the school.

    Grad transfer immediate eligibility.
     
  30. flash34

    flash34 500+ Posts

    A small tidbit of new information on old news per a thread on other website. One item caught my attention was that a significant reason Patterson was unhappy and transferred was that she was “dating another player, they broke up, and the ensuing drama” was an issue. Have no idea of the validity, but came from a respected poster who claimed inside information.
     

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