2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by ProdigalHorn, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    There is pandering and then there is pandering. Liz going after the
    "bad boy" demographic
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  2. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    I was surprised Warren et al did not jump on that slip up.
     
  3. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Or is she auditioning for the part of Sandy in Grease?
     
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  4. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Actually, that could be the one State where Tulsi does extremely well...too bad the Dems won't let her on the stage for the debates. Keeping her out creates the self-fulfilling prophecy for polling...people don't know the name because they can never see her on stage and she cannot get on stage because people don't know the name when the pollsters call.
     
  5. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    There was a point in the debate where mini-Mike stopped JUST short of saying he bought people in the 2018 elections. He was talking about the $100M or similar figure that he pumped into the campaign cycle and he utters "I bo...I got them"

    If I could figure out how to find the specific moment and embed it, I would do so...but it was very telling slip that he caught before most picked up on it.
     
  6. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    They went together in the US and Western Europe in capitalist countries.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    US Union leadership and organizers even received funding from the Soviets
     
  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Yes. Who would be most able to run the factories once the owners were killed than the representative body of the proletariat, the labor union?
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Stop me if you have heard this before, but money cannot buy you happiness (and perhaps a few other things). He made an unforced error declining to do the Nevada debate.

     
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  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's not a big shock. A bad debate can sink a candidate. Bloomberg got better in the second half, but the first portion was such a bloodbath that he never recovered.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    In 1985, the Communist Sandinistas paid for Bernie to travel to Managua, Nicaragua to attend -- along with Soviet officials -- an anti-US rally during which he stood w a crowd chanting, “Here, there, everywhere, the Yankee will die.”

    Bernie --
    “The Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people -- substantially more support -- than Ronald Reagan has among the American people."
    This was just after Reagan beat Mondale in a landslide.

    Bernie Sanders: 'Democratic Socialist' Or Out-And-Out Stalinist? | Investor's Business Daily
     
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  13. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Anybody want to wager the Dem winner in SoCar?
    I bet Biden by 10+
    The black vote was always why he was the presumptive winner before the race began. And Biden bought off Clyburn early and has been able to hold him. He is very influential there.
     
  16. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Workers of the world, unite.
     
  17. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I heard the black vote is 67% of the electorate
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Everyone in politics knows the story of the Dems in SoCar. Which means Bloomberg knew about Clyburn's influence there too. Which makes me wonder what all mini-Mike dangled in front of him to try and get him to flip. More than a little sometim sometin.
     
  19. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Bold prediction. I don’t think he wins by 10% with that many people in the “moderate” lane.
     
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  20. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Re: the union stuff being discussed—

    Some unions were friendly to the communists and even had card carrying communists and fellow travelers among their leadership, such as the ILWU (longshoremen/dock workers on the West Coast), the farm workers union in California, and some of the miners unions. The IWW (Wobblies) were communists.

    Other unions were not friendly at all towards the communists, such as the Oil, Chemical, and Atomic Workers Union and sometimes the Steelworkers Union. Although Truman and the Steelworkers butted heads during a strike when the Korean War was going on. Truman brought in the Army. Moscow probably liked that, but I don’t think the Steelworkers were commies. Certainly not the rank and file.

    At least one union was violently hostile towards the communists and leftists in general, and took every available opportunity to (literally) bash their skulls in—the Teamsters. Some say there was a point where they functioned as a sort of informal private army for Nixon and some organized crime figures back then.
     
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  21. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    If Cosmo Kramer had an uncle, that's what he'd look like
     
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  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Another one from Facebook.

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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet



    Or to put it more accurately, "I actually don't have a plan, but I do have some vague and nonspecific political taking points that I'm hoping your audience will mistake for a plan."
     
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  24. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Hmmm... I wonder how her appropriation of the money funding the PORTFOLIO of immigration control would help if someone with coronavirus sneaks across the river, enters my fiancee's ranch land, breaks some gates and fences down, breaks some windows and steals some food (which happens quite a bit in the real world) before mingling with us all.
     
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  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    As long as she can get his or her vote....
     
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  26. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    It is frustrating to me how she gets away with being such a demagogue. She calls it a racist wall. But the hard reality is that the southern border is where the sieve is. The dam broke. They are flooding across and we all know it. They just happen to be Hispanic. Then you have the true racism, led by La Raza, LULAC's and their cheerleader, Sotomayor. Why do they care so much? Because they are racists; caring only for their tribe. We know the political vision is open borders, sanctuary cities, benefits, amnesty and the abolishment of the enforcement arm (ICE and cutting back on immigration control funding). THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS.

    But we have this shrill, sanctimonious, virtue signaling, humorless, narcissistic, demagogue willing to openly and arrogantly lie about the situation all to assuage her massive ego and chip on her shoulder.
     
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  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    How can a wall be racist? It affects everyone equally except the maybe the handicapped. You try to point that out to a SJW, you likely get screeching. Can’t wait till Nov 3.
     
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  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    She thinks Open Borders will save us from coronavirus?
    Ideas like this only make sense in liberalville
     
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  30. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    This is a clue as to how cynical she is about her supporters. They're idiots. They eat the racist talk up like raw meat and she knows it. They are zealots with fire burning in their eyes. Or at least I hope she's just being cynical. If she actually believes this stuff then she's truly dangerous.
     
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