2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

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  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    This is crazy:

     
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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And without evidence, those were stupid, self-serving conspiracy theories just as these are. So is the goal to be as pitiful and dumb as the news media was four years ago? We're being more ridiculous than Stacey Abrams.
     
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  5. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    There have been numerous instances of ballots not being counted and very strange statistical anomalies.

    I don’t know who to believe. There simply is no reliable news source at this point. While I want Trump over Harris, if the SCOTUS gives it to Trump, legitimately or not, there will be blood in the streets.
     
  6. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    I lived for a while in Jim Wells County where a Senatorial election was decided in 1948 by a couple of hundred paper ballots that came in late and which included some voters who were dead and all of whom voted in alphabetical order and had the same handwriting

    nothing is foolproof I guess
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is NBC/MSNBC last year worried about voting machine hacking
    Here they show how easy it is to hack the machines
    The same machines used in this election
    But bow NBC/MSNBC seems to have completely forgotten about its recent reporting, for some reason

     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Princeton prof

     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is another discussion of hacking voting machines, including a room at DefCon set up for kids where an 11-year old girl hacked into the Secty of State's office and changed the voting results in under 10m

     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Dershowitz out of hiding on Bartitomo's show today thinks Trump has 2 or 3 paths to victory -- equal protection, SCOTUS overturning rabid Dems in PA and Dominion's computer fraud
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Back in 2017, even CNN was concerned about voting machine hacking
    The silence from them this year shows they only care about hacking if they think their preferred candidate might be a victim of it
    If their candidate benefits from hacking, they could care less and have absolutely nothing to say (just like certain posters herein)
    America deserves better media than it gets

     
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  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    JF
    what dates did those segments air? Any idea?
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    As recent as Oct 2020, PBS (of all people) was very concerned with voting machine integrity in Georgia
    But now that they think Biden won, they have absolutely nothing to say about the machines. Just silence
    This briefly explains how GA went from corrupt Diebold machines to corrupt Dominion machines
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The PBS report in 2020
    The DefCon material is either from their 2017, 2018 or 2019 conferences
    After Trump won 2016, liberal media interest in vote fraud was high, which is why you see them producing these stories in this time period
    Today it is nonexistent, go figure

    The Princeton prof is 2008, although he is still around and still sounding the same alarm
     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So voter fraud existed but the DMC thought there was no way Hillary could lose so there was no concerted effort to utilize it. Wonder how many of Soros backed DAs benefited from it in 2016 and 18?
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It wasn't just media either, of course
    I previously posted in here the letter from Democratic politicians Sen Elizabeth Warren, Sen Ron Wyden, Sen Amy Klobuchar and Congressman Mark Pocan warning about reports of machines “switching votes,” “undisclosed vulnerabilities,” and “improbable” results that “threaten the integrity of our elections.” They sent this less than a year ago

    "These problems threaten the integrity of our elections.

    Today, of course, they are completely silent.

    [​IMG]

    The pdf of the full letters is below. You will note that the third letter down is directed to Staple Street, a major investor in Dominion Voting Systems, and is specifically about their concerns with Dominion machines.

    https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G. McCarthy, & Staple Street letters.pdf
     
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  17. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    They stayed silent when the DNC rigged 2016 for Hillary to get the nomination. Why would they say anything now?
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The software in Georgia's new Dominion voting machines was "updated" right before the election. This report is from October. The machines were also updated the day before the election, if you can believe it



    Even Politico concedes this latter point. They even note subsequent machine glitches were "unexplained." But, of course, now that Politico thinks their guy won, they have dropped the reporting on this issue, and no one from Dominion is around to explain what they were uploading into the machines the night before the election. And, thus, a cloud of doubt hangs over this entire election

    " ... Ridley initially told POLITICO on Nov. 3 that Dominion, which prepares the poll books for counties before elections, “uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch.” The glitch prevented poll workers from programming the voter smart cards for the voting machines.

    In her initial comments last week, Ridley said that a representative for the two companies called her office after poll workers began having problems with the equipment on the morning of the election. The representative said at the time that the problem was due to an upload to the machines by one of their technicians overnight, Ridley told POLITICO.

    That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” Ridley said. Ridley said at the time that she did not know what the upload contained. She also said that to fix the issue, Dominion sent three technicians on Election Day, who traveled to each precinct in her county to make a second software update to the poll books....."

    Cause of Election Day glitch in Georgia counties still unexplained
     
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  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    This morning Maria Bartiromo announced representative for Dominion Voting Machines will be on FOX News today at Noon Eastern.


    How many lies will be told?
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Before this election, back when they were still worried about "Russia," HBO (of all people) was so concerned about voting machine integrity, they made a documentary about it

    In advance of the 2020 Presidential Election, Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America’s Elections takes a deep dive into the weaknesses of today’s election technology, an issue that is little understood by the public or even lawmakers.

    From directors Simon Ardizzone, Russell Michaels and Sarah Teale, the team behind HBO’s 2006 Emmy-nominated documentary Hacking Democracy, Kill Chain again follows Finnish hacker and cyber security expert Harri Hursti as he travels across the U.S. and around the world to show how our election systems remain unprotected, with very little accountability or transparency. Hursti’s eye-opening journey is supplemented by candid interviews with key figures in the election security community, as well as cyber experts and U.S. senators from both parties who are fighting to secure the integrity of the vote before November 2020.

    As the film shows, individuals, foreign states and other bad actors can employ a myriad of techniques to gain access to voting systems at any stage – from voter registration databases to actual election results.

    Through this lens, seemingly unrelated or uncoordinated security breaches of the recent past can be seen as part of a “kill chain” – a military doctrine to plot meticulous, long-game attacks, understanding that breaking down trust in voting results is the surest way to undermine democracy. As enlightening as it is disturbing, Kill Chain underscores the fragility of our election process and points to the clear solutions available to protect us against sabotage.

     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Halderman is a prof at Michigan
    Kind of ironic considering the level of vote corruption in Michigan

     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is OAN discussing Dominion Voting Systems for ~30m

     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    These good people would never rig an election, right?

    "Months after utility Commonwealth Edison admitted to a patronage scheme to curry favor from House Speaker Michael Madigan, some of the Chicago Democrat’s closest allies are now facing criminal charges.
    * * * *

    Prosecutors charged the utility in July, which cast a shadow over the election cycle. ComEd, along with paying a $200 million fine, admitted to a years-long patronage system that included hiring Madigan allies, contracts with favored companies, and other perks for members of Madigan’s camp. The state-regulated utility paid those allies for jobs that required little or no work, according to a deferred prosecution agreement.

    McClain, a Quincy Democrat, is seen as one of Madigan’s oldest and closest confidants. He’s indicated on multiple occasions that he would not cooperate with authorities to leverage a case against the longest-serving legislative leader in American history.

    The speaker has not been charged with any crimes and has repeatedly said that he’s done nothing wrong. All four defendants are facing charges of bribery conspiracy, bribery, and falsification of records, ....."

    Feds close in as Madigan's inner circle sees indictments
     
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  24. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    You should post one mega post consolidating everything you've compiled about this once the dust has settled.
     
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  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Agreed. He really needs to get his crap together.

    :fiestanana:
     
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  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

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    We would have to pony up a ton more in donations so Dion could increase capacity.
     
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  27. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    How many times will this person open their mouth?
     
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  28. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    I'm willing to contribute.
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

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    I have it on good authority JF will be coming out with Binder.
     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    WikiLeaks leaks of State Dept cables from 2006

    Question 1 -- Why do you suppose the voting machine folks went to so much trouble to hide ownership and control?

    Question 2 -- who do you suppose thought it was a good idea to bring this stuff to the US?
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    Cable: 06CARACAS2063_a
     

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