2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by ProdigalHorn, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    The Global Warming facade is going to be way American Communists get to kill there millions of citizens. They must be so jealous of Stalin and Mao. But finally they figured out a way to get people to agree with their own mass murder.
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Bernie's solution is for the American taxpayer to fund abortions in 3rd world countries

     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    If we weren't talking about Biden, I'd be more inclined to agree, but Biden has been sticking his foot in his mouth for 40 years. He does it habitually, and it doesn't seem to hurt him. He has a bit of the same "I can say whatever I want, and I don't give a crap" persona that, frankly, Trump has. He says something stupid or even racist, and people just laugh or otherwise shrug it off.

    Is Biden really sliding? You can find polls that suggest he is. However, if you look at the polling averages it doesn't look anywhere near as bad for him. In fact, he's ahead of where he was a week ago.

    And I'm not sure where you're getting your state numbers. If you have a link, feel free to share, but at least according to the RCP averages, she's losing to Biden in Iowa, NH, NV, and SC. And in NV and SC, it's a bloodbath.

    And I'll admit my bias. I'd rather see Biden win the nomination, because it would be easier for me to justify voting against Trump again like I did in 2016. If Warren is the nominee, I can't justify that. Everything I don't like about Trump (and by that, I mean stuff that actually drives my vote, not just personal preferences) is in Warren ten-fold.
     
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    If Trump said the identical things that Biden says, the media and left would pounce on them as stupid, racist comments, and he would be further labeled, without question or challenge, a lying, racist idiot.

    Biden simply makes "gaffes". Poor ole Uncle Joe. He just misspoke for the thousandth time.

    The left feared Trump's "rhetoric" would surely have had us in year 2 of WWIII by now. That hasn't happened.

    What would Biden's "gaffes" put us in if he was President?
     
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  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    LongestHorn, thinks its funny that Democrats will kill millions with the Green New Deal. Shows you what kind of person he is.

    Look the "green" mentality has infiltrated Texas even. ERCOT has added so much wind and solar while shutting down coal plants and blocking nuclear that they can't keep up with summer demand. They call it "demand management". Which means getting you to use less electricity or they will start rolling blackouts.

    This isn't a problem in Oregon or Germany. This is a problem in Texas today. Substituting cheap, reliable, abundant energy sources for expensive and unreliable sources. Georgetown showed everyone how destructive it will be. We tough Texans all sit by and let it happen. The Communists are winning y'all.
     
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's a problem in Germany. It gets hot here - in the 90s and even 100 during summer heat waves.

    Here's how they "solve" it. They butt-slam their people on electricity rates, so virtually nobody can afford to air condition their home. They might be able to run a window unit on the hottest days, but that's the exception, and nobody has central AC. I've literally never seen that on a home here. I live in a pretty upscale neighborhood, and when I walk or drive through the neighborhood, I'll see big, nice homes owned by college professors, businessmen, surgeons, etc. with their windows open and fans running but with Porsches and BMWs in the driveway.

    Of course, if you did that in Texas, everybody would ***** and complain. Germany gets around that by using propaganda and social pressure. They indoctrinate their people through education and media that energy use is a moral issue and that they are literally saving the world as an atonement for Nazism, so it's considered very politically incorrect to complain about electricity rates. And of course, if you complain about the heat, it'll get blamed on climate change. (They sorta forget about the smug "climate isn't the same thing as weather" remark you hear when it's cold outside.)
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I wonder if the Snopeses will fact-check this one?
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Latest polling from The Economist and YouGov --

    Trump: 43% favorable (29% “very favorable” + 14% “somewhat")
    Bernie: 41% (18% “very favorable" + 23% “somewhat")
    Creepy Joe: 40% (17% “very” + 23% “somewhat”)
    Warren: 39% (20% “very” + 19% “somewhat”)


    Also, Democrats dont think their candidate could beat Trump.
    32% of Biden’s supporters said he could beat Trump (42% "probably lose")
    28% of Warren's think she can win (44% think she would lose)
    46% of Sanders' thinks he would lose to Trump

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/3gj4ffirhi/econTabReport.pdf
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I dont think she will carry Texas

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  10. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    I used to believe that. I am not so sure anymore. Texans for all our bluster are pretty passive nowadays. Even energy companies feel the need to apologize for giving us electrical power with promises of investing in renewables. It all cowardice and passivity.
     
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  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That may be true, but money talks. If people who were accustomed to paying $300 per month for electricity were suddenly paying $1,000 per month, I think they'd complain. Furthermore, in places like Texas large numbers of elderly folks would die from the heat. I think that would spark significant complaints as well.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If Elizabeth Warren names Hillary as her VP, thoughts and prayers to Elizabeth Warren and family

     
  13. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    JF
    Yet scarily true.


    I did not know that a 50 yr old investigator into Epsten case just recently suddenky and mysteriously died. I have not seen a cause listed yet.
     
  14. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Acute Clintonitis.
     
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  15. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Isn't that like seeking advice from Marv Levy on how to win a Super Bowl
     
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  16. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe. But I am not going to expect it. Most of the people I know believe CO2 is air pollution and that Bernie is deep down a good guy. It will take people getting violent (even verbally) to change anything, and no one is willing to really put up a fight.
     
  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    But that's sorta my point. Nobody will do anything - until they see their electric bills skyrocket and go over to grandma's house and find her dead. I think that would spark a fight.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Should we have an electoral college of one? Russell Brand.
    Whoever he chooses just takes over immediately
    (dont worry, there are english subtitles)
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Inspiring

     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is current Voter ID requirements by state --
    17 States Require Photo Voter ID
    18 States Require some form of Voter ID
    15 States DO NOT Require Voter ID
    About what you would expect?

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    As of April 1, 2019, 35 states enforce or are scheduled to enforce some form of Voter ID requirement. Of those that require ID, 17 require voters to present photo ID. But the remainder accept other forms of ID (driver's licenses, state ID cards, military ID, or paperwork) -- and so some of these accept ID without photos.

    This is becoming even more of an issue now because Jerry Nadler and the Dems are attacking these ID requirements at the federal level. They want the Congress to override local and state voter integrity laws. They want felons and illegal aliens to vote, along with dead and imaginary people. And often.
     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Smoke a joint on stage?
     
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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Hasn't Beta done this?
     
  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    We just won a R+8 Congressional district by 2 points. Do we still not care about the suburbs? Link.
     
  25. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Socialism wasn’t on the ballot. It will be in 2020.
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That didn't used to matter. And what do we do if the Democrats don't trip on their own dicks by nominating someone like Bernie or Warren who are easy to label as socialists?
     
  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    White suburbia voting for end of their healthcare and other loony **** is not going to happen. The D in this race ran as a moderate. Good for him, but that is not going to be the case at top of ticket.
     
  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    I thought suburbians were somewhat intelligent. Why would Trump being President cause them to not vote for other Republicans? Did the Republican in NC District 9 act like Trump or something? I don't get it.
     

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