2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by ProdigalHorn, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Warren is a tyrant.
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I agree, but the entire movement to get social media to ban or "fact check" political ads is inherently tyrannical. Unfortunately, it's a bigger problem than just Warren.
     
  3. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Yes. The Left and Big Tech are working together to take away freedom. It is one of the worst things that can happen. Powerful elites with different spheres of power working together to control other people.

    Look up Michael Rectenwald and his new book Google Archipelago.
     
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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Yep, and at some point, it wouldn't surprise me if social media platforms come to be treated as public institutions and with all the legal implications that go with the. I don't necessarily favor doing that, but I can see it coming.
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Dem voter makes me do something Ive never done before -- feel sorry for a SBUX barista

     
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  6. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 500+ Posts

    Would have given a paycheck to see her reaction on Nov 2016

    Would give two more to see her this November
     
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  7. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    She cares so much for the children of America - sure you do, lady. You support abortion.
     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is a slimey accusation and probably untrue
    This is at the top of CNN homepage, they picked a side, I guess
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  9. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Spartacus and Harris never had a chance after their clown show during the Kavanaugh hearing.
     
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  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Preamble for their campaign.
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Why assume he wouldn't say that? Plenty of political insiders think a woman can't win. And frankly, a shrill, nutty leftist woman probably can't win. (See Hillary Clinton.)
     
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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I doubt he said that. I believe he eventually endorsed Hillary 2016 (for a few shekels, lol). And, like the rest of them, he probably assumed she would win in a walk over Trump. And, thus, he thought a woman could win the presidency, which blows up this entire narrative. The fact the she lost is immaterial to the question whether he thought she could and would win.

    But, OK, let's see if someone has proof to the contrary. Otherwise, it's just more of CNN trying to pick your candidate for you.
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Speaking of the Bern, here is some eye-opening 1974 Bernie
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I'm sure he did assume Hillary would win (though he was probably less of a believer than most). However, it's possible that he changed his view on that between her defeat and this meeting with Elizabeth Warren. Keep in mind that a very common (and predictably self-serving) narrative on the Left is that Hillary lost because of sexism or "misogyny," and I'm sure Bernie has literally heard that thousands of times in the last three years. Well, if Bernie buys into that as so many in Washington do, it's entirely plausible that he said it.

    Could it be a lie? Of course. Elizabeth Warren has a reason to lie about this, and obviously she has a history of making **** up. I'm just saying that it isn't a far-flung thing for Bernie to say.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    First time it has been mentioned Bernie asked Warren to run
    Why?
     
  20. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I get the feeling most people dont sit through the entire Dem debates -- and I dont blame them, they are usually snoozefests. But if you did, you would be amazed how uniformed Bernie is on a variety of issues. He often has no idea what is being discussed, even though all of it is softball questions. He reminds me of some loudmouth who has been sitting at the end of the bar for the last 40 years.
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He can still pack them in
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    CNN has reached the point where Van Jones is the most honest person they've got. Would not shock me if he voted for Trump

     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It was only about a year ago Barry was pimping this guy for President
    CNN was too. Here was Brian Stelter drooling over him --

    "Looking ahead to 2020, one of the reasons why I'm taking you seriously as a contender is because of your presence on cable news."

    He's now facing 400+ years.
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This issue came out into the open somewhat last night
     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Followup on the above in the Wash Examiner
    "CNN wants to elect ‘President Elizabeth Warren’"
    Which does appear to be true
    I always wonder which is tail and which is the dog? Is CNN controlling the Dems or do they control CNN?

    “President Elizabeth Warren” began trending on Twitter during the Democratic debate on Tuesday night, and CNN all but made it happen.

    The liberal media is all-in for Warren, and that's been true for some time. But it was even more evident at the latest Democratic debate, during which moderators largely refrained from challenging Warren on her policy proposals, choosing instead to target her rival Bernie Sanders.

    On Monday, CNN reported an apparent leak from the Warren campaign claiming that Sanders told the Massachusetts senator that a woman couldn't win the presidency. That set up Sanders vs. Warren as the showdown to watch on Tuesday, but CNN's moderators didn't even permit a fair fight.

    After Sanders denied that he'd ever made the supposedly sexist comment, CNN debate moderator Abby Phillip asked for a response from Warren. Instead of referring to the comment as an allegation, Phillip said, "Sen. Warren, what did you think when Sen. Sanders told you a woman could not win the election?"

    Warren delivered her reply, and Phillip concluded: "Sen. Warren, I want to give you the final word."

    That could be a good summary of CNN's editorial ambitions. It's not interested in giving other candidates a fair hearing. CNN is all-in for Warren.

    CNN wants to elect ‘President Elizabeth Warren’
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Even the crackpots in the audience laughed at the idiocy of the question.
     
  28. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    CNN is a propaganda machine.
     
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  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I dont recall any of the Dem candidates every bringing up the fake Indian stuff with Warren. Did I miss it?
    Meanwhile she has been dumpng on Bernie (hates women), dumping on Biden (naiveté), dumping on Mayor Pete (wine cave)
    Why do they just let it slide?

    And I cant recall any of the mods trying to pin the down on open borders either. Have they ever discussed immigration on the stage?
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Agree, but which is the tail and which the dog? I go back and forth on it
     

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