2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

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  1. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I hate to sound like Captain Obvious again but she knows if those passed it would destroy the gun industry.
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I'm generally pro-plaintiff and don't support special liability protections for gun manufacturers, but clearly it's insane to single them out for special liability as well. First, tort law is a state matter. There shouldn't be a federal cause of action for personal injury. Personal injury cases are brought under state law, and usually in state court.

    Second, the idea that a defendant would be held strictly liable (meaning without proof of fault) for the intentional criminal acts of someone else is ridiculous. The intent of a law like that is very obviously to bankrupt the gun manufacturers.

    If there is a true products defect, then sure, hold the gun manufacturer liable. However, some crackpot deciding to use the gun in the commission of a crime is not a products defect. The product was fine. The lunatic who fired the gun should be held liable. Should others be liable as well? Depends. If you illegally sell a gun to someone who uses it in a crime, I don't have a problem with imposing liability. However, that's going to be the gun dealer, not the manufacturer.

    If a dumbass law like Warren's is ever passed, it should get struck down in court.
     
  3. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    What make of car did that lunatic in Charlottesville drive? Asking for a shyster friend.
     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Was the fix in?

     
  5. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
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  6. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

  7. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Where is @Seattle Husker now??!

    Hahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahshahahahahhahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahha

    And his tin foil hat buddy @OUBubba?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
     
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  8. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    C’mon McHammer. You know both Husker and Bubba are amongst the most fair and cough - snort

    Hahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahshahahahahhahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahha

    balanced posters around.
     
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He's still going
     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The very next law she passed would be a legal declaration that anyone who voted for Trump committed a hate crime and, thus, could not own a gun. Doubt me at your peril
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They said the briefing was classified as nat sec. But within a week of the briefing, someone in the Congress had leaked it. I would not mind seeing a few of these leakers spend some time in the pokey, and I don't care what party they side with.
     
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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Paging Pocahontas

     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Somebody is getting a lot of money for this idea
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Russians also supported Sanders (Stein too) in 2016, but the media didnt mention it much. It's different now. This is from 2017 ....

    "... Other advertisements paid for by shadowy Russian buyers criticized Hillary Clinton and promoted Donald Trump. Some backed Bernie Sanders and his platform even after his presidential campaign had ended, according to a person with knowledge of the ads.
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    The ads show a complicated effort that didn’t necessarily hew to promoting Trump and bashing Clinton. Instead, they show a desire to create divisions while sometimes praising Trump, Sanders and Stein. ..."

    Russian-funded Facebook ads backed Stein, Sanders and Trump
     
  16. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    What is the message? I don’t get it.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
  18. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    The reason people like Trump is because he doesn’t run away from what he says. He owns it. So now we have Bloomberg running away from stop and frisk. He’s being called a racist for that policy he continue once elected. What Bloomberg should have done is turn it back on his accuser by calling them racist because most of the victims of crimes are black and they don’t want to protect the innocent blacks. The policy worked. So less crimes against blacks.
     
  19. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    What the Russians are allegedly doing pales in comparison to what the British did before the two world wars and what Trump did in the recent Israeli election to help Netanyahu
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another good Carlson segment, this one dealing with the newest RussiaHoax
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    My wife and I went into town and visited a shop. When we came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. We went up to him and I said, "Come on man, how about giving a senior citizen a break?" He just ignored us and continued writing the ticket.

    I called him an "*******." He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn-out tires.

    So my wife called him a "shithead." He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he started writing more tickets.

    This went on for about 20 minutes. The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote.
    He finally finished, sneered at us and walked away. Just then our bus arrived, and we got on it and went home..

    We always look for cars with Bernie Sanders stickers. We try to have a little fun each day now that we're retired. It's so important at our age!!
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  23. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    That was a great segment by Tucker. He is right that the CIA/FBI and probably other wealthy people with influence over them even are manipulating our elections and subverting our governmental processes. The only way to end it, is to shrink the size of government, cancel agencies, throw offenders in jail for life, reduce spending, eliminate Fed monopoly system. That gives power to the people and allows state governments more room to rule. We may need some Brexit events in the US too.
     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is it elder abuse by 'the Democrat Establishment" to keep sending him out there?

     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Clint Eastwood has ditched the Donald for the Mini-Mike
    Should be fun watching liberals decide maybe ol Clint is not so bad after all
     
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  26. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    I have seen this take from many in the Wall Street finance circles. Make sense for Hollywood to emulate it. It’s basically allows you to distance from Trump but vote for a moderate. It also sets them up when Bernie wins to vote for Trump.
     
  27. OUBubba

    OUBubba 2,500+ Posts

    Trump obviously thinks that he has his best shot against Bernie, so his minders in Russia have started helping Bernie. Makes sense.
     
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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    For the sake of argument, assuming you are right, that means a plurality of GOP and Dems don’t give a **** about Russia since they obviously are not listening to your Russian collusion nonsense about either candidate?
     
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  29. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Ha, Trump doesn’t give a crap which train wreck is the nominee.
     
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  30. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I hope this is sarcasm.
     
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