2020 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Joe Fan, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some quotes

    WR Troy Omeire, Fort Bend Austin - "I thank coach Drew for recruiting me to Texas and best of luck to wherever he ends up. He's young and he has a great future ahead, but it doesn't change my commitment at all."

    WR Dajon Harrison, Hutto - "Either way it goes, our recruiting class is something serious. There's nowhere else I'd rather be."

    WR Quentin Johnston, Temple - "It's definitely a tough situation, especially since I have a great realtionship with (Mehringer). There's nothing I can do now. I just have to take it and run with it.

    DL Vernon Broughton, Cy-Ridge - "It's bigger than football. My loyalty is to the University of Texas and coach Herman."

    LB Derrick Harris Jr, New Caney - "I was very surprised to see him let go first, but I know it's all a business. I'm still committed to Texas."

    S Xavion Alford, Shadow Creek - "I'm 1000% committed to the University of Texas as a school. Me picking Texas is also a business decision. I have no control over what goes on when it comes to coaches. My job is to come in and be the best player I can be. That's what I'm focused on the most."

    S Jerrin Thompson, Lufkin - "I'm still 100% committed."

    There were some rumors about Broughton reaching out to other teams, but from what he told Mike Roach of 247, he still sounds solid
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some Mike Roach on BC's role

    In 2018, the advent of the tenth assistant position in college football allowed Tom Herman to utilize one of the best weapons in his recruiting arsenal. While the Longhorns worked to fill the role, director of recruiting Bryan Carrington was sent out on the recruiting trail to try to close the Texas class with a bang. Carrington’s short time out recruiting helped the Longhorns to win over Daniel Carson and Moro Ojomo, but his biggest impact came with Joseph Ossai. All three of those prospects were thought to be headed elsewhere, but Carrington was able to stop Carson from committing to Nebraska and he swayed Ossai from Texas A&M to Texas. Following that run, Carrington was praised for his recruiting ability and relationship with recruits in the class.

    Now, with the staff in turnover, Carrington will once again be asked to go out and help the class. This time, he’ll likely be doing more to help lock down the current commits than winning over a bunch of new ones. Why is Carrington the man for the job? He’s the guy that recruits maintain contact with from the time that Texas first reaches out. With no on-field coaching responsibility, Carrington eats, sleeps, and lives recruiting. He’s also one the most relatable recruiters in the country with an age and interests closer to those he’s recruiting than his colleagues on the staff.

    In this cycle, Carrington helped to identify and land players like Dajon Harrison, Ty Jordan, and Quentin Johnston. Carrington will likely fill the holes in the staff to keep up relationships with the players who were recruited by coaches that were dismissed over the weekend. It also wouldn’t be surprising to see Carrington involved with the high-profile recruits such as Ja’Quinden Jackson and Bijan Robinson. In times of turmoil, continuity and familiarity are two important factors in recruiting. As the prospects face the uncertainty of new coaches, Carrington should provide a familiar face to calm them.
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  3. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    Sounds like BC is going to be busy and, hopefully, productive :hookem:
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is from a West Coast 247 mod

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  5. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Boy, just popped that aOSU pundit's bubble! Send him a tube of Preparation H laced with Ghost Pepper sauce.

    Now, I want to see what Carrington, Herman and Giles can do to get Van Fillinger back into the class. He is only 17, so staying at home in Utah may be more appealing, but he came here on his own first. I think Texas has a 50/50 chance.
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Interesting development given the timing

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  7. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    The worse is over. Should only get better between now and Feb assuming we don’t screw it up. A good bowl game opponent like Oregon would help
  8. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Can we get a Jerrion Ealy Transfer Portal to go with that?
  9. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Beating Oregon would be a good recruiting feat.
  10. HORNSFAN214

    HORNSFAN214 < 25 Posts

    It's likely hes gonna end up at Utah
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  11. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

  12. Dionysus

    Dionysus Cocky + Relaxed Admin

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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another spot opens
  14. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    Just to make sure I understand this line of thinking, once a coaching staff has a reasonably good year (2018), even if that same staff severely underperforms the following year, it shouldn’t matter because they did OK the previous year...?

    It certainly doesn’t work that way in the real world.

    Herman is using his “Get Out Of Jail Free” card now. He probably won’t get another one unless some very good things happen in 2020 & 2021.
  15. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 5,000+ Posts

    So, the bowl games will match #13 Oregon (10-2) against unranked Texas 7-5? I don't see it. What am I missing?
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  16. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 2,500+ Posts

    If Herman wins 10 games next year I cant see him going 7-5 the year after unless QB development with Roshon or others goes down the toilet.
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  17. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    We are #3 in the conference. Our slot is the Alamo bowl if I am correct.
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  18. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    We are tied for third place with four other schools.
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  19. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    No Big XII in CFP the champion goes to the Sugar Bowl and runner-up goes to San Antonio. All other bowl the-ins are the Bowls' choice. If the champ goes CFP, #2 goes Sugar and #3 goes San Antonio.

    Baylor/ou v. Oregon/Utah in San Antonio is more likely. Camping World will probably be the best Texas can reach (especially against ND).
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  20. 22Horn

    22Horn 250+ Posts

    Interesting! 247 shows C Thompson as Auburn commit but then shows prediction as 100% Texas...??
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    An Ole Miss mod put in a CB for him to Texas
    Despite the lack of a DC
  22. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    The comment speaks directly to fans' ability to perceive and evaluate coaching performances. What were in one year geniuses are now dodos? Really?

    I think the highs and lows are way over emphasized.
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  23. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    Well, given that Orlando has been terminated and Beck reassigned, apparently, yes.
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  24. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 1,000+ Posts

    The problem is you can't use real world logic when it comes to football. Football is a game that ignites passion, and passion is the enemy of logic. Football and perception go hand in hand. Our perceptions dictate our reality and we apply that to our opinions of our team and the coaches that serve them.
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  25. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    But the best coaches are logical and dispassionate and examine everything for what it is.
  26. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 1,000+ Posts

    I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I'm referring to the fire that drove change in the coaching staff. That didn't necessarily come from Herman, that came from BMD/Fans that got upset over the outcome of the season.

    Most speculation was that Herman was happy with his staff and blamed the outcome on external circumstances such as injuries and inexperience. Force applied by the BMD and the AD fueled this change.

    I've seen a lot of passion in coaches on the sideline, including Herman. At the same time I've seen some coaches that were as stoic as a statue. Tom Landry, Lavelle Edwards and a few others. I don't think there is a commonality you can use with how coaches approach the game.
  27. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Temporary satisfaction,
    Is there any other kind?

    - Radio Planets

    The culture of Instant Gratification.
  28. Handler

    Handler 100+ Posts

    Agree 100%, This board was concerned that Orlando was going to take a HC job 12 months ago.
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  29. hornde68

    hornde68 25+ Posts

    Here’s to you Burnt Orange and Handler! Spot on. I was with those worrying about losing Orlando.
    Rewind to summer. Everybody, drunk on Longhorn sunshine, had UT in the running for CFP berth. This despite all the coaches warning about a young and inexperienced defense. Based on 4 quarters of time per game per starter, that’s 480 player/quarters. Of those, defensive starters lost over 300 to injury or something. BS targeting penalties or bad behavior. At the time of TCU mess, we played 9 So/FR on defense. That was not promised to be good to start with. UT played the entire year without a single, legitimate edge rushing threat. Not a single one. Not very many players have Bosa presence or even Hagler/Omenihu. With zero, you conjure a rush someway. That puts safeties in Must Run support priority and corners on islands. Green, talented but untested corners. A train wreck should surprise nobody. Coach your way out of that.
    In August, we had ONE running back. ONE. So a QB (God bless him) converts to RB to essentially prevent a completely ruined season. He/they play well but dinged up. So we can’t run a balanced run/pass offense. DUH!!! I thought our play calling was like flat beer, but think about what happens if THE running back gets hurt. At one point we had a LB as second string. You might have also noticed we have NO great LBs. By these measures DKR is gone after 1967.
    Hire WHO. Who in their right mind, among the currently employed, would want to come to Nat Champ world? The great aTm has more promise. Notice that post Trump tax effects on sports coaches and donor taxation, nobody NOBODY in America is even hinting at paying Aggie dollars. That might become a permanent, never topped world record! Try to hire Jumbo for proof.
    Hell this board sounds like Saban has lost his edge, can’t win the big one. Can you imagine Dabo in atheist-Ville Berkeley?
    We all need to step back, realize the realities of football in 2020. No one is coming to a thankless, over imagined football heaven with a revolving coach carousel. See: aTm 1955 to present. No players=bad coaches=coach changes=worse players. Again...see aTm 1955 to present.
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  30. 22Horn

    22Horn 250+ Posts

    68....good analysis but how do you arrive at 480 quarters of play time. For 12 games I am coming up with more played quarters (528)

    Help me. Please jump over to 'on the field' and read my post regarding injuries to 1st and 2nd level depth chart. 2nd page line 5 or 7. I am trying to prove to a friend that the pure number of player missing multitude of games effected the performance of the team. Do you have a record of games missed via injury followed by games missed for major illness. Only a hand full of players were able to pay in each game.

    If you have that injury data please pass it to me as I strive to give evidence to my friend.

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