2020 Senate & House

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, May 5, 2019.

  1. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    I've heard a ton of contradictory information on this topic, so I decided to look it up. Here's the timeline, compiled from the 12th and 20th Amendments plus the Congressional statute implementing those provisions:

    Nov 3 Each state holds an election to chose presidential and vice-presidential electors (3 U.S.C. sec. 1). If the election fails to produce a winner, the state legislature can set procedures for selecting electors (3 U.S.C. sec 2). If those procedures are set before election day, they aren't subject to challenge, but if they are set after election day, Congress can object (3 U.S.C. sec 5).

    ASAP The Governor notifies the National Archives of who has been chosen as electors (3 U.S.C. sec. 6).

    Dec 14 Electors for each state meet in their state to cast their votes (3 U.S.C. sec. 7-10). Votes are sent to the President of the Senate, which would be the current VP, if there is one, otherwise the senate president pro tem (3 U.S.C. sec 11). Extra copies are sent numerous places for safekeeping. (id.)

    Dec. 23 Senate President follows up regarding any missing electoral votes (3 U.S.C. sec. 12).

    Jan 3 New Congress is sworn in. (Const., 20th Amendment)

    Jan 6 Congress meets in joint session at 1:00 p.m. The Senate President opens and reads each state's votes, in alphabetical order. As each state's votes are read, an objection can be raised by one rep and one senator. The houses then separate to deliberate [for a maximum of 2 hours, 3 U.S.C. sec 17], after which a vote is taken on the objection. An objection is sustained upon a majority vote of both houses. If that doesn't happen (or if no objection is raised), the votes are counted. The Senate President then opens and reads the next state's votes (3 U.S.C. sec 15).

    Jan 7-11 If Congress doesn't finish counting the electoral votes on any given day, the meeting can go into recess and reconvene at 10:00 a.m. the next day. If there are still votes to count (or not count) after 4 sessions (January 6, 7, 8, 9), they start back up on Monday January 11 and continue until done -- no more recesses (3 U.S.C. sec 16). After the above process plays out, the person with a majority of electoral votes for president is certified as president-elect, and the person with the majority of electoral votes for VP is certified as VP-elect (12th Amendment).

    If nobody gets a majority of the presidential electoral votes, the top three candidates (or two, if only two received electoral votes) are put before the House to choose between as president-elect, with each state delegation getting one vote. If nobody gets a majority of the VP electoral votes, the top two candidates are put before the Senate to choose a VP-elect. (12th Amendment).

    January 20 at noon. The new President and Vice President are sworn in. If no new President has been chosen yet, the new Vice President serves as acting President (20th Amendment).

    If neither a President nor a Vice President has been selected, the next in line for the acting president role is the Speaker, then the President Pro Tem of the Senate, then the cabinet in a designated order (State, Treasury, Defense, AG ...). Each of these people would have to resign their position to take on the acting presidency, so there is a real chance they'd decline if it looks like it will be super-short-term (3 U.S.C. sec 19).
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  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    thank you
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  4. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    No. I knew that was coming when I first read about it yesterday.
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The salon owner is being forced to shut down and relocate
    Not just her business but her family too
    Due to threats
  6. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The maskless-Nancy video was the open to today's WH briefing, playing on a loop
    Followed by the reminder that Pelosi has been holding up the stimulus negotiations
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  9. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    South Dakota Governor invited her to relocate there...cost of living would be so much better as well. Sure each service may have to be a lesser charge, but not having to pay SF taxes and costs would be well worth the reductions...more than off-set in all likelihood.
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  10. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Probably need a thicker coat too.
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  11. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    Not having to walk through feces on the sidewalk alone would be worth the move.
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  12. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    Mom has already eyed some 50+ acre pieces of property upon which new construction could be placed. Her biggest concern is that it gets COLD. But the lack of hurricane and humidity is a plus...as is the absence of Sly and Dora.
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  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I could smell this coming from a mile away. Covid is an issue on which Democrats have an advantage. This salon owner just massively undermined that advantage by exposing the Party's senior congressional and just visible figure as a hypocritical, self-righteous fraud. The media will focus on the "setup" angle, but frankly, even if it was a setup, it doesn't matter. Nobody's going to believe that Pelosi didn't know she was breaking the rules.

    It's like Neil Ferguson here in the UK. He sells the government on the idea that Covid is the apocalypse and convinces it to go into full lockdown. But when he's feeling sexually aroused and wants to bang another dude's wife, none of that mattered anymore.

    And let's be clear about something. People on the Right criticize Pelosi and these busybodies because they think this means they don't sincerely buy into the Covid risks. I think the truth is worse. I think Pelosi and Ferguson actually do buy into it. They just think that they are so special and important that they are entitled to force the public to bear the risks to make sure they aren't inconvenienced. Pelosi's hair and Ferguson's schlong are more important than a common citizen's life.
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The majority of coronavirus deaths are in the over 70 crowd. Nancy is 80 (I think). Considering that she is currently in the line of Presidential succession, her going anywhere without a mask suggests the entire pandemic fear is a bit of scam that will end around Nov 4, or so.

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    Last edited: Sep 4, 2020
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Always was
    Always will be
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  16. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Democrat politicians will do anything to keep Democrat voters helpless and hopeless enough to keep voting for Democrats. - PJ O'Rourke
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  17. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    But........the beach set her up!!!! Can't you paranoids see a conspiracy when one pops up? The beach set her up!!!!
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  18. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 250+ Posts

    As my dad always taught me......You can't fix stupid
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  21. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    The real Covid advantage lies in large cities being run by democrats. They would rather see people starve to death by keeping the economy closed than allow people to go back to work. If restaurants and bars were allowed to open, unemployment would immediately drop below 4%.

    If these politicians really believed that Covid was that bad, they would have furloughed government workers.
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    • Winner Winner x 5
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    PA-1 (Bucks County) - this is the district that was redrawn in 2018
    Fitzpatrick (R) 52 (a Trump guy)
    Finello (D) 36
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    I saw that Hegar is within 2% of Cornyn. Losing a Senate seat in Texas would be a disaster for Republicans. What I am hearing is that Cornyn hasn't been very conservative in his record.
  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Heritage has him at 82%. Not bad but need to see where he did not vote conservative and why
    The people who say they are for the Dem are not for the Dem because they are conservative
    Wonder how much outside /Soros money is pouring in

    Btw Cruz is at 96%
  27. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Phil, that's unfortunately too true. I wish there were an easy way to reverse that.
  28. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Junk poll
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  29. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    I hope so mchammer.
  30. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    New ABC poll has Trump +4 in FL and +1 in AZ. How can polls be off as much as 10 points from other polls? Very easy. Also most polls today have 4% margin of error. Used to be 2%. The polls are practically useless in any race that is within 5 points. This is what Nate Silver doesn’t understand.

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