2020 Senate & House

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  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Wow. That's good news. He was dirty even for an Illinois Democrat.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  4. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I'd laugh except
     
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  5. Hideo Gump Jr.

    Hideo Gump Jr. 250+ Posts

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  6. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Georgia has a choice between yet another charlatan Reverend and a blonde zombie. Probably the best they have.
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  8. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    And the sad thing is that there are idoits who will vote for him...
     
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  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    With the disarray the party is in in Georgia, he has a very good shot. It's sad. A generally conservative state is at a real risk of electing a left wing freak show to the Senate. I hope we don't go back to needlessly throwing away Senate seats like we did in 2012.
     
  10. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Agree, Mr. Deez. IMO, it is absolutely critical for the GOP to maintain control of the Senate - it's the only way to slam the brakes on the hard-left agenda that the Squad will try to push through (and I'm not sure Pelosi can rein in the Squad).
     
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  11. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Does not compute....Trump wasn’t in the GOP in 2012.
     
  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    One could make an argument that Trump has never been in the Republican Party.
     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    No, but Richard Mourdock (Indiana) and Todd Akin (Missouri) were.
     
  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts



    Putting the poll watcher complaint aside, the RNC wants the Drop boxes to be available only during regular election office business hours and have publicly available 24hr surveillance of every drop box. Time to suppress the Absentee ballots.
     
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  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Serious burnage.

     
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  16. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Is that like an Illinois Nazi?
     
  17. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Worst. Election. Cheaters. Evah.
     
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  18. humahuma

    humahuma 500+ Posts

    Yep lazy cheaters
     
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  19. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    As was Connie Mack the 8th or whatever his number was in Florida, plus establishment candidate losers in Montana, and North Dakota. Don't forgot about those either.

    Mourdock lost because Richard Lugar assumed he'd be Senator for life from Indiana, lost the primary, then in a fit of pique sabotaged the guy who won, to much media applause and adulation, which meant more to Lugar than helping his party win.
     
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  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    What Nazi ever held power in illinois comparable to the Speaker?
     
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  21. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Here’s my reference:
     
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  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Not comparable.
     
  23. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Indeed. Since Kelly Loeffler is the Republican establishment pick, while Doug Collins was more the populist side of the GOP, a loss by here would be comparable to the 2012 loses in Montana, ND, and by Connie Mack the 8th in Florida

    But not comparable to the losses that year in Missouri and Indiana, which are eternally brought up by both the media and republican establishment.
     
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  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    The reason I brought up 2012 was because we threw away Senate seats like some are trying to throw these away. These actually aren't like either set of races.

    North Dakota and Montana involved two states that were politically weird - largely rural but frequently elected Democrats to federal office. Furthermore, the Democrats put up very strong candidates in both. In Florida, we were trying to unseat a popular incumbent at a time when Florida was bluer than it is today. The point is that the GOP wanted to win those races but knew that losing was very well within the realm of possibility even if they ran strong campaigns.

    Indiana and Missouri come up a lot, because we had them in the bag and fumbled at the goal line with unforced errors. We had decent candidates who would have easily won, and we chose **** candidates. Even the **** candidates could have won narrowly but then they screwed up on their own by saying stupid **** and pissed everything away.

    The Georgia races aren't comparable, because neither of the GOP candidates are to blame. They're doing their best (though both are mediocre) and should be able to win in a state that's redder than any of the states we lost in 2012. However, they're getting screwed by unforced errors being made by idiots who aren't even in the state.
     
  25. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I'd say respective investment actions that they've made rise above "unforced errors" even if it doesn't rise past the point of costing them the election. Purdue is trying to do the homer backing into the bushes. Honestly, I don't blame him. Compared to Loeffler who's flailing away like a good MAGA girl would.
     
  26. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    In Missouri, yes the candidate was weak, though McClairskill was a decent politician - that race was not a done deal regardless of who was nominated.

    But Lugar's fit of pique was more important in losing that race than anything the candidate said. He thought he was Senator for life, didn't campaign or stay in touch with his state, lost, then did his best to sabotage Mourdock, who made some ticky tock statement that was suddenly the worst thing ever.

    Connie Mack IV was a horrible candidate - the worst type of loser the Republican Establishment has to offer - rich kid dud gravy training off his family.

    Georgia is becoming a battle ground state - huge influx of yankees into the Atlanta area, and horrid vote by mail fraud issues in that state, while Florida cleaned up it's voting mess in a few years, and had the election counted and done with by 10 pm election night.
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    McCaskill was a good candidate, but she was in a red state that was well to her right. The GOP had a lot to work with, and once we put forth a respectable candidate, she was very beatable. That's why she subsequently lost in a stronger Democratic year.

    Frankly, if I lived in Indiana I would have voted for Lugar even though I am more conservative than he was. The reason was that Lugar might have been the sharpest foreign policy mind on Capitol Hill, and that's worth something. The Capitol is worse off for him not being there. However, it is true that he was not a team player after losing and clearly had sour grapes about it.

    However, Lugar didn't sink Mourdock. He was leading even into October by most polling. Things didn't flip on him until he made the dumbass statement. That was decisive.

    I wasn't a big Connie Mack fan, but no, he wasn't the worst type of loser. He was a mediocre candidate who ran a mediocre race and lost to a strong candidate in a Democratic year when his state was bluer. (Obama carried Florida. Romney carried Indiana and Missouri.)

    It's becoming a battleground state for the same reason Arizona and to a lesser extent Texas is becoming a battleground state. In recent years, we've been mroe focused on dick-slapping and smack talk than on actually convincing people that we're right on the issues and why. That's hurting us with educated voters in the suburbs in those states. What's worse is that the fans of dick-slapping don't care. They have no plan to attract those voters again and don't think they need to.
     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    She is only ~10 years older than Biden

     
  29. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    It's fitting that the party trying to bring communism back is fronted by a bunch of old, demented pols. It's like the last years of the soviet union.
     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I sense the media is now ready to leave the old guard Dems behind. They are not defending them as quickly as they used to, if at all. I think the media is ready to usher in the new bread of Dems - the craziest, most Marxist ones

    And with the backing of Big Tech, its difficult to see how they can be stopped
     
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