2021 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Badass, May 7, 2018.

  1. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Really? That would have been sufficient for Plan II when I went to school.

    Is a perfect SAT still 1600, or was the scale changed?
     
  2. UTexRulz23

    UTexRulz23 100+ Posts

    Back to 1600. (A few years ago, writing was separate and it was a 2400.)
     
  3. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 1,000+ Posts

    Realize it's about effort and return. If you have a super talented kid in Texas that wants to go to Texas vs. a slightly better kid in SoCal that is being recruited by everybody, do you put all that effort into the SoCal kid, knowing the chances of return are slim, or just go for the low hanging fruit. There is lots of great talent in the state, and many of those kids want to go to Texas. They should be the priority and then you turn to putting all your effort into the elite athletes and try to win them over.
     
  4. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Believe that would be: RB - AJ "Jam" Jones from Youngstown and LB - Jeff Leiding from Tulsa.
     
  5. CreakyHorn

    CreakyHorn 100+ Posts

    My son got in, with a 4.5. A number of his friends, some with 4.0, didn't. It's pretty common knowledge, at least at his school, that if you want to get into UT, you better take AP classes, and do well. Pretty crazy for a state school.
     
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  6. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Yeah, I had to take ECT (English Comprehension Test ) the same day and did not do too well. Retook it a week or two later and improved 200+ points and was a minor sensation some division because I was told "You should not be able to do that." Never understtood that.

    I wonder what Plan II requires now?
     
  7. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    I wonder how much of that is grade inflation? I know one girl n my class of 600+ got a 1600 SAT when I was in high school and I think she was the valedictorian. I don't believe she had a perfect grade point average though. Certainly not over 100.
     
  8. Chop

    Chop 2,500+ Posts

    I think it's at the point where around 3/4 of the sort of kids that used to go to UT-Austin are now looking at the UT satellites (UTSA, UTA, UTEP, UT-Tyler, etc.) if they want any sort of UT degree. Meanwhile, UT-Austin is skimming some of the sort that used to end up at Rice or the Ivies.

    These boards seem to have a lot of mindless California hate, but it seems that we're going the way of the UC system--with UC Berkeley and UCLA being elite schools that are very hard to get into, and the UC-Irvines, UC-Davis, UC-wherever, taking most of the kids that would have gone to Berkeley or UCLA a generation or two ago.

    As far as 2021 football recruits go, it's pretty clear that they need not meet the same admissions standards as other students.
     
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  9. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 1,000+ Posts

    Much respect to you, VH....seems like in today's world/technology/communication possibilities, any person (head coach) trying to stop communication is like a barbed wire fence in Amarillo trying to stop a north wind....
     
  10. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    It’s roughly 200 points higher than it use to be. 1400 is the new 1200.
     
  11. LHABSOB

    LHABSOB 250+ Posts

    I know this is a recruiting board so forgive my frustration post. My son had UT as his top choice, actually had decided to follow my footsteps in LHB. 95.5 GPA (equivalent of 4.0). 1390 SAT. Keller has a very competitive class this year and he isn’t close to top 6% for guaranteed admission. Didn’t get accepted but was offered CAP program meaning he would have to do first year at another UT system school like UTA, UTSA, UT-Tyler, etc. But the CAP only guarantees school of Liberal Arts and unlikely for Engineering which he is set on. He’s been accepted to UTA with a great scholarship package (can’t use it if he goes there for CAP) and has been accepted to Purdue which has an outstanding Engineering school.

    So now his thought is if he really wants to go to UT instead of taking the CAP, he should just go to UTA and bust his butt to make a 4.0 and roll the dice that he can get accepted as a transfer. Purdue has rolled out the red carpet and really wants him so now my guess is I am probably going to be spending parents weekend next fall in West Lafayette (damn sure better not be OU weekend).

    I can’t help but wonder if we moved out to a smaller city with less intensity on academics like Sanger/Boyd (no offense to those schools) that he would have had a better chance at top 6% and guaranteed admission.

    OK back to 2021 recruiting- we better get the Brockermeyer twins!!
     
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  12. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    You missed my point. Texas has to go out of state because Texas no longer has an open door to Texas talent.
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  14. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    1200 SAT would most likely not qualify for Plan II 50 years ago unless that applicant also won the Nobel Peace Prize.
     
  15. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Yeah, Texas really missed on all those safeties and CB in 2018, and the QB and DL recruits this year are so second rate!

    In reality, the front door of Texas is always open for any qualified recruit. Times have changed so that kids don't grow up within 15 miles of their home, never even going beyond the next County anymore. It behooves any good program to get the best player they can get who wants to study at the University of Texas and play in Herman's system. Welcome to Modern College Football.
     
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  16. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    We are agreeing that Texas has to go out of state for above average players. I am not sure of your stance on why. Mine is to make up for losing players to all of the schools you listed because Texas has pissed off a number of HS coaches who are the gatekeepers.
     
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  17. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    None of whom reside in states with a quarter the talent of Texas - the numbers don't lie.

    Jam was never all that; and Rodney had that great recovery against SMU.
     
  18. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 1,000+ Posts

    Well, we're not a top ten program right now, and will get "raided" by those top ten programs. Texas just needs to start winning 10 plus games a year and the recruits will stay home/come to our state and call it home....
     
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  19. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    And Rodney Tate from Oklahoma.
     
  20. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Last I looked, players and coaches win, not numbers.

    Just one of the starting RB. N o t h i n g at all. :facepalm:
     
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  21. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    My sons were both A students with 1200 type SAT scores (both are a lot smarter than me) but did not make the cut for Austin. We were disappointed but both got UT - Dallas business degrees, have $0.00 student debt and got pretty good jobs, so it turned out well.
     
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  22. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    I know these difficulties don’t directly keep our recruits out, but my point is—as shown in a lot of these posts— that many strong UT families across the state now have kids at our rivals’ schools, and that begins to destroy loyalty. I was directing that at why the HS coaches themselves might be in that position with their own families and friends.
    I think you probably got that, but I just felt like repeating myself
     
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  23. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    If anything, that is an indictment of the current state of public education in Texas.
     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We offered 2021 DB Omarion Cooper of Florida - a fast riser

     
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  25. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Not sure I understand. UT capped enrollment 50 years ago, but the state population has tripled since then. Thus the natural overflow to all the other schools
     
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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We offered slot WR 2021 Christian Leary from Orlando -- very fast player

     
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  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We offered 2021 WR Marcus Burke from Florida

     
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  28. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Wow, we really are going Out of state.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We offered 2021 4-star WR Dekel Crowdus ("the Flash") of Lexington, KY

     
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  30. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    Our new coaches have come from our of state Maybe they gave a few good relationships out there.
     

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