2022 House and Senate election

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  1. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    To me, the GOP will look like children going tit-for-tat if we try to impeach Biden. the attempt to impeach trump was entirely political theater and it is tempting to play the same way but right now the GOP is winning without doing over-the-top stuff like this. we can take the high road and just let elections do what they are designed to do. If we look at 2022 strategically for the party and try to get a few conservative POCs or women elected in competitive moderate districts then we could blunt the dems efforts in 2024 to run on Race and Gender platforms. Liberals and liberal policies have recently been shown to be failures and people are seeing that. You'll never get that last 40% of lefties to acknowledge it but the rest of the country is seeing it and increasingly voting it that way.
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    No. In 2018, 37 Republicans didn't seek reelection. The record is 1992, when 40 Democrats didn't seek reelection. One thing to note is that both the 1992 election and 2022 elections were/are immediately following reapportionment and redistricting. It's common to see quite a few retirements after that. I think that affected 1992 more than it's affecting 2022, especially since there was a big boost in majority-minority districts mandated by Voting Rights Act litigation going into the 1992 election.
     
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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Thanks, Deez. I knew you are useful around here sometimes. :beertoast:
     
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  4. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Agree. In the first place, I think the voters would recognize an attempt at impeachment as "revenge" - and it would have some backlash. Second, there is zero chance, even if the House were to impeach, that the Senate would get the 2/3 needed to remove him from office. Third, even if he were removed from office, would we really want to turn the keys over to Kamala?
    Better plan - assuming the GOP wins the House and the Senate in the mid-term election - is to advance some GOP policies. Pass some GOP-favorable bills and send them on to Biden for the certain veto. Then we've labeled him as "Dr. No" if he decides to run in 2024 - and if he opts out for 2024, so much the better.
     
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  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Governing by virtue signaling is on the ballot in 2022.
     
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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yep. Biden hasn't done anything impeachable. We don't impeach the president because we detest his policies or personality.
     
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  8. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I would say every President has done something impeachable. Whether the Congress chooses to impeach or not is a question of political strategy.

    As many of you have said, I think impeaching Biden doesn't solve the country's problems alone and could distract from more important things. But he has grossly violated the Constitution or has attempted to. He doesn't have to violate the Constitution in a unique way for him to be unfit to continue in office.
     
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  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    In Deezestan (the hypothetical nation in which I would be benevolent dictator), refusing to enforce the border would be an impeachable offense. The President's job is to enforce the laws, and he's refusing to do so in violation of his oath of office. Monahorn's basic contention is pretty much correct. I would oppose impeachment largely for practical and political reasons.

    I'd also add in precedential reasons. We've generally tolerated presidents not enforcing the border - Bush, Obama, Clinton, etc. Doesn't seem fair to suddenly change that precedent and throw the book at Biden.
     
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  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  11. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    A whole lot can happen between now and November, but for now, it's looking pretty rosy for the GOP in the upcoming U.S. Senate elections.
     
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  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Perlmutter sorta got screwed in redistricting. It's split between a much bigger D+6 district (numbered as his current district - 7th) and the new R+3 district (numbered as the new 8th district). Here's the ***** of it though. The 8th district has a big Hispanic population. It's R+3, but that's based on the 2020 election with Hispanics favoring Democrats. That's going to be far less true in '22. If he runs in that seat, he's going to lose.

    He could try in the 7th district, but that district is much bigger than his old one. It has the same population core, but it includes more rural areas than before. At D+6, it's certainly winnable, but it's not going to be a foregone conclusion. A lot of it will have to do with whether the GOP nominates a Lauren Boebert starter-kit (who would take the seat off the table for the GOP) or someone with suburban appeal (which would make the seat competitive). Furthermore, with a significant expansion, a more moderate rural or exurban Democrat could primary him. Though it's less Hispanic than the 8th district, there are enough to be problematic if they were previously relied on to make the district lean D. In short, he could still win it, but it would be a pain in the *** that he may not want to deal with.
     
  13. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Please pass this quote on to Nancy Pelosi.
     
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  14. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    WE don't.

    Dumbocraps do.
     
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  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Dems are going to get creamed if they lose MD senate seat. The good news for them is that Manchin and Sinema won’t be their biggest problem anymore. Hahahahababaha!

     
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think Hogan could make it close, but I don't see it happening. I suspect that with his health issues, he wouldn't want to jump into what would be a brutally tough race that he would make competitive but likely still lose.
     
  17. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
  18. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Bill Clinton? Oh, yes, he lied about a BJ

    political impeachments are a bad idea

    and if you impeach Biden, is his veep a better deal? For the country as a whole, as opposed to the benefit she would be to the GOP?
     
  19. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    He lied under oath.
     
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  20. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Not only that, but tried to get others to lie under oath as well. He lied to his staff and then trotted them out, knowing they would have an easier time convincing the public than himself.

    The "lied about having sex in the White House" line was a deflection ginned up by the Democrat party, and broadcast out by various suck-asses in the media, until it's accepted as fact.
     
  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  22. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    About a BJ

    and got acquitted

    Trump got impeached for something and acquitted

    menopausal hissy fits and impeachments motivated by hate have a lot in common

    Clinton and Trump are both rats. That’s not grounds for impeachment any more than Biden’s incompetence and senility.
     
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  25. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    ^Seems like the ship is about to sink - and the passengers are trying to get off before it sinks.
     
  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    "Yes, Mr. Boss Man I did steal from the company, but I did it so I could afford to pay a hooker for a blowjob. The wife won't do it for me, and a hooker isn't going to do it for free. So this isn't really about me stealing from the company. It's about a blowjob. Why are you so obsessed with my private sex life? Why are you firing me for getting a blowjob??? How petty and hateful of you."

    I guess that excuse should work now.
     
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  27. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    First, though, they will spend time rearranging the deck chairs...
     
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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Cooper is the 29th Democrat who has decided not to seek reelection to the House in a year that's expected to be difficult for his party due to once-a-decade redistricting and the historic tendency for the incumbent president's party to lose congressional seats in midterm cycles.
    Cooper becomes latest House Democrat to not seek reelection
     
  30. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yep. As toxic as Trump was with suburban women, it was and is possible for Democrats to screw it up with them. I honestly don't think the initial school closings are what's hurting them. I think very few would punish them for closing schools at the very beginning before things were really understood.

    What's hurting them is the blatant, over-the-top whoring for the teachers unions in keeping them closed for so long coupled with the self-righteousness of attacking anyone who called it into question and saying they don't care about teachers and children. It was a stupid move, because if you make it a moral issue, it becomes extremely hard to compromise, set a reasonable standard for reopening, or frankly change course in any way. If you reopen when there's even a trace of Covid in the area, you look like a morally-depraved sellout. And you have to admit that you were a dishonest ******* when you were saying Greg Abbott and Ron Desantis were pushing a "death cult."

    Of course, CNN has to do some of the Democrats' dirty work by pointing out that most schools are open, and that is true. However, the areas where schools are closed are generally heavily Democratic (because the unions hold a lot of power in those areas), which makes it hard for Democrats generally to disentangle from the issue.
     
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