2022 House and Senate election

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    This eerily sounds like the situation with Texas football to me.
     
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  2. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    If/when that happens it will become even more clear that the Republican Party is controlled opposition. And I would say not worth a vote from a conservative person.
     
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  3. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

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  4. Murphy'sBoy

    Murphy'sBoy 1,000+ Posts

    Republican inability to govern on display for the world to see. The 20 "rebels" are like kamikaze pilots who took off from their carriers and then circled back and sunk them.
     
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  5. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    This is actually a good analogy. The Republican party is garbage. I support this insurgency. Keep it going and make the swamp sweat. Force Dems to vote for McCarthy or for some other scenario. Im all for dissent in the face of capitulation to the establishment machine.
     
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  6. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    That's a stupid MSM narrative. This is what is called democracy. You didn't get that under Pelosi and the dems.
     
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  7. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Correct. The Dems are very good at goose stepping in perfect union with one another.
     
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  8. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  9. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    As far as the government goes, I'm a fan of generally speaking the longer it takes the better the result for Americans. When things whiz by in a fast vote look out for the **** to start slinging.
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    To be fair, it would be pretty hard for anyone to govern with a majority that small. Having said that, they do look stupid not having their **** together enough to elect a Speaker.
     
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  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The idea of having staff goes back quite a long time, and you do need them. My first job was as an administrative aide to a state rep back when I was 20. I probably answered the phone 50x per day and drafted another 30 letters answering constituent mail each day, and when I wasn't doing that, I was helping constituents who were getting the runaround from state agencies. The more senior people researched and read legislation, and when I was off the clock, I stayed in the office and joined them to help and as a learning experience. I can't imagine the member doing all that himself and being on the floor to debate and vote. And a member of Congress has about 5 or 6 times as many constituents. Pretty much impossible.

    But that's a separate issue. They're not getting rich off the pay. They're mostly getting rich off of side deals that are enabled by sloppy ethics rules.
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Not sure what else they can do. You've got about 200 members who are willing to vote for their nominee, and you've got another 20 who would rather stir up **** and grandstand than get on with their work.
     
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  13. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Wut? They're trying to keep another 2022 from happening.
     
  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    By keeping their party from electing a Speaker?
     
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  15. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    lol. Jesus Christ. Have you looked at their demands that McCarthy won't entertain?
     
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Honestly, I haven't. What do they want?
     
  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    @Garmel , by the way, I hope you wore a rubber, dude.

     
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  18. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    This all started slightly after the elections. Here's one that I didn't see mentioned in these articles- They want McCarthy to quit interfering in the primaries and he won't agree to that. In other words, they want him to quit going after MAGA. Deez, these are the good guys.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...out-speaker-demands-amid-mccarthy-opposition/

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...mands-insufficient-ahead-of-speaker-election/
     
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  19. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I'd give her a shower alright. GIGGITTY!!!!
     
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  20. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  23. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I'm not against having staff, but it seems obvious the staff who are unelected are writing these massive bills that the elected representatives do not read. They just tell them to stick massive payoffs in for donors who then pad their pockets outside of the ethics rules.
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Where people’s brains are replaced with propaganda:

     
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    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'm going to disappoint you even more. The staff usually doesn't write the bills either. They're usually written by lawyers who work for the Legislative Counsel, and many of them aren't very good, which is why a lot of laws are poorly drafted. Think of them as the gay porn actors of the legal profession. And when they aren't writing the bills, lobbyists (or more accurately, the lobbyists' high-powered big firm lawyers) usually are.
     
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  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'll bet he'd agree to some of this. The real fight is likely about the rules committee and requiring the leadership to stay out of primary elections. To meet their demands, he'd have to kick loyal members off the Rules Committee and defund them to appease people like Lauren Boebert who will screw him every chance she gets.
     
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  29. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    You never disappoint. I learn from HF posters everyday. :hookem:
     
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  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Let me correct this:
    "You've got about 200 members who are more Progressive than conservative, and you've got another 20 who would rather hold the line on a conservative agenda than play nice with the US regime."
     
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