2022 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Joe Fan, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

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  2. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    thought this was interesting enough to post ...

     
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    Badass 2,500+ Posts

     
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  4. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    OC,

    Did I miss a rule change? In my day, DKR had multiple players on scholarships that were academic or something other than scholastic. Subsequently (70s I think), the NCAA said that football players on scholastic scholarships counted against the 150/120/115/85. Is that no longer the case?
     
  5. OrangeClad

    OrangeClad 250+ Posts


    I am not sure I quite understand your category names (scholastic vs academic, etc.), although they may be accurate. I believe it was when they went to the 85 man football athletic scholarship limit, they also changed the rule that required any student who participated in a game to be on a football scholarship to avoid teams loading up with 85 football scholarships and 150 more on academic scholarships, and all playing games. The less primary sports (such as softball, swimming, etc.) can have athletes on partials and mixes of different scholarships.

    A few years back, Baylor was talking to us about my daughter (softball pitcher) getting a 15% softball athletic scholarship and an 85% academic scholarship. She was a 3.5 GPA student and this incensed my son who was already at Baylor on an 80% academic scholarship after a HS career with a 4.5 GPA. I tried to explain to him that the reason was he didn't have a 66 mph fastball and for some reason, he just couldn't understand how athletic performance could affect academic scholarship money. Ah, the idealism and naivete' of youth.
     
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  6. NRHorn

    NRHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Sometimes I am dolt, thanks yes makes sense a kid who can get into Harvard can get an academic.
    I assumed all PWOs were on their own dime.
     
  7. DrRad

    DrRad 250+ Posts

    If I recall correctly, years ago USoCal had players on soccer scholarships and no soccer team!
     
  8. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Non revenue sports are treated totally differently than football. I believe that football players, walkon or full ride, cannot be on academic scholarship unless it counts against the 85 total.

    All other sports get a total of "X" scholarships worth a total of "$Y". That money can be split among players. For example, Gus had a walkon infielder who got $250 from Gus and another block of money from the academic side, but it did not total up to enough to cover all the expenses that a single football player received. If I remember correctly, Gus had money divided amongst 25-35 kids.
     
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  9. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Recruit a track guy on tuition and books; need speed or jumping ability let him play football. Once that is a done deal he counts towards the football scholarship limit.
     
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  10. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    PomPoms with the poop. Ain't like it's my opinion, it's the idiots formerly residing in Shawnee Mission, and now in Indianapolis making the rules, yet the military academies get 300 appointments for athletes and Osborne used to have 225.
     
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  11. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    My apologies Sabre. I must have accidently hit that when scrolling.
     
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  12. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    take it for what it's worth, not much, but I would rather be us right now :hookem:

     
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  13. NRHorn

    NRHorn 1,000+ Posts

    I’ll spare the team here and not comment on Perkins
     
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  14. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    Wow, if and when we get Campbell, this o-line class would be rated A++++. Much more than what i expected!
     
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  15. OrangeClad

    OrangeClad 250+ Posts


    I am hoping, as well. However, if UT getting Campbell was a foregone conclusion, it would have happened in December. There was no reason to hold out until 4pm on the last signing day if he was satisfied and knew where he wanted to go. I don't believe it is as "for-sure" as some believe. I just hope it happens now and we have not lost out not only on him, but others we chose not to bring in because we were trying to keep him on the hook for the last 7 weeks.
     
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  16. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Just to make sure everyone has proper perspective on our '22 oline recruiting and the possibility of adding Campbell..

    Quote from 247 (the first part in particular)..

    "...And if they do indeed add Devon ‘DJ’ Campbell, it’ll be the best offensive line haul in the country. And you put that with a terrific defensive group, and they got a chance to really ‘iron sharpen iron’ practice with this group, and it’ll be exciting to see what they can grow into.”

    The best offensive line haul in the country.

    ..let that sink in.
     
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  17. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Even without Campbell (major fingers crossed because he can make history), it’s amazing, and perhaps the best OL haul in forever.
     
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  18. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Catholic like Sarkisian

     
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  19. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    What is happening with Banks?

    Rivals has dropped him to a 4 star?
     
  20. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Its Rivals...and he signed with us.

    And yet aggy thinks we get favorable ratings treatment
     
  21. OrangeClad

    OrangeClad 250+ Posts

    it is a complete crock. I was on an Orangebloods thread (paid content) with Ketchum arguing that he voted for the downgrade, too because Banks didn’t look as good as some in the Under Amour drills. It was pointed out that Banks played almost the entire game and completely dominated every defender every single play, showed quick feet, strength, bend and never once got burned, except one play where there was confusion and both he and guard Devon Campbell thought the other was going to pick up a defender. This, while still 5 star Zach Rice, Dewberry and Neto and all the other OL got beat a number of times. And, in the All American game still 5 stars OT’s Josh Connerly and Elijah Pritchett both got burned numerous times. Ketchum’s argument was that the game itself was not a good judge of capability and it was the drills that really mattered. WTF? So, being a stud in game performance and being able to dominate the highest caliber competition when it matters most to the win/loss column doesn’t count, but performance in a drill designed to teach and practice how to perform in a game does count? That is completely bass ackwards logic. Banks was the single best and most dominating OL that played in either of those 2 games against the highest caliber talent out there.
     
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  22. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    The more I see and learn about Ketchum, the less I like him. Watch his YouTube videos. He’s a blowhard and a bore.
     
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  23. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    Deep dive video with Devon Campbell …

     
  24. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    I generally consider Rivals to be trash.
    Good post
     
  25. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Not all but a lot of these football talking heads ....as the cliche goes...just live through this tiny connection they have to it since they arent playing and make waay too much of themselves than they should.(similar to many parents)
    Great humility and a sense of knowing who and what you are and who and what you arent likely produce the best analysts/commentators/media guys...
    ...and many or most don't possess it or so it seems
     
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  26. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    I thought that Campbell was going to formally commit at the hoops game last night.
     
  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Ags have claimed this for a while and I am inclined to believe them.
     
  28. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    I thought it was signing day
     
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  29. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    And yet
    Ketch>>>>>Liucci
     
  30. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I believe Rivals is not as generous (over-hype) in their star ratings as other sites have shown to be.
     

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