2024 GOP Primary

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Feb 8, 2023.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I understand that, but they're both extreme improbabilities. One is about as likely getting struck by lightning twice, and the other is about as likely getting struck be a meteorite. Both are far too remote to be the basis of creating a broad right to vote.
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    China would certainly be pleased.
     
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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I get your point but with all military branches suffering major shortages in enlistment and with things heating up world wise a return to the draft is actually not that far fetched.
     
  4. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Hahahaha, had to laugh Horn thinking something like; not that far fetched to be catering to the LGBTQ and drag queen circuit. Dear God.
     
  5. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I love this guy.

     
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  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    He is great. I have to admit that I've never seen him "cheery." It would help his chances if he could show a lighter side at times - not on an issue like this but just in general.
     
  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    That's one of the reasons why he can't win the primary. He just can't connect with people. Zero charisma. However, he's still the best republican out there.
     
  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Well, I hope he gets over that. In the meantime, he should get his wife out there for him. She's more personable. (And yes, she's hot.)
     
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  9. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Always a chance one these prosecutors puts Trump in jail over nonsense so DeSantis might win by default. About all of the other people running in the primary are not presidential material in the least.
     
  10. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I'll take effective leadership over charisma 8 days a week.

    In fact, to me effective leadership = charisma. Have to get DeSantis across the primary finish line somehow. Dems want Trump again and all the imaginary fbi fed issues that go along with his ****** personna that repels the middle
     
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  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I agree for my own vote. In fact, I'm suspicious of politicians who seem overly friendly and charismatic, because I know it's often ********. However, I also know that in order to win (especially for a Republican to win), a candidate has to make large numbers of gullible, ignorant suburban women feel good about voting for him. If a candidate seems overly "mean," they won't feel good about voting for him, and he'll lose. That sank Bob Dole, John McCain, and Romney. Dole and McCain had the personalities of an angry Walmart greeter. Romney felt like a calculating corporate villain. Those weren't fair characterizations of them, but that's how they came across. So, of course, those women voted for the seemingly nicer Democrats who made them feel good.

    One thing that Desantis has in his favour is that though he doesn't come across as nice, he's not a wuss and does come across as strong (unlike Dole, McCain, and Romney) and a protector. I think that's why Trump did better with women than many expected. Is it enough to compensate for his general crankiness? Maybe. I hope so. Either way, I'd put that smokin' hot wife of his out there more.
     
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  12. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Race is over if DeSantis wins nomination:

     
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  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think it's too early say that, but he's definitely in a better position than anyone else.
     
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  14. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    I'll go along with that.
     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    The proof of how the Demx are worried is they are starting to come after DeSantis
     
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  16. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    DeSantis will need to mobilize the Republican base to get out and knock on every door in this country to hand out fliers outlining the crimes of the Gambino, uh I mean biden crime family.
     
  17. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    The alternatives to Biden in the party are too depressing for most Dems to think about. How to get the blacks, Hispanics, unions and socialists behind anybody else. The horror of it all

    Biden’s selling card is that he beat Trump once and he is not Kamala or any of the other whackos.

    that is it

    the GOP problem is that too many people just hate Trump. And I don’t mean they just dislike him. Republicans in large numbers too

    My brother voted for him twice because he was an R and there was no D he could stomache

    Says he will sit the next one out if Trump is in

    but the trumpoholics are unlikely to get behind anybody DT doesn’t like. As in anybody but himself

    Next year is going to be an ungodly mess

    Think 1968
     
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  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    So which party will have riots at their convention? The Dems are returning to Chicago.
     
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  19. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    In 1968 there were riots in Miami and Chicago

    people forget about Miami for some reason

    what if Biden and Trump are not the nominees?
    I like Manchin but that won’t happen

    the best nominee the Dems ever had won on the 45th ballot and got elected

    one can dream
     
  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I had no idea there were riots in Miami. They're never talked about. I suspect that the Chicago riots were more disruptive to the convention, and there were criminal charges brought against high-profile defendants (the Chicago 7).

    If Trump is the GOP nominee but Biden isn't the Democratic nominee, it won't matter. Dems will unify around a rhinoceros turd to beat Trump. If the GOP nominee is somebody else, Dems will be less unified all the way around. How unified the GOP will be will depend on how Trump behaves. If he "blesses" the nominee, the nominee will be in great shape. If he is tepid or half-assed, the nominee will have trouble. If Trump actively opposes the nominee or tries to run as an independent, the GOP is screwed.

    Manchin has cast far too many pro-life votes to be the Democratic nominee.
     
  21. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    This is where we start talking about what we had for lunch.
     
  22. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Croissant and large Americano with double shot of espresso
     
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  23. Hollandtx

    Hollandtx 250+ Posts

    I like this guy so far.
    I wish he had a chance. He reminds me on an Indian Barack Obama, young, charming, smart, energetic, charismatic, but, from what I've gleaned so far, shares my beliefs.
    Vivek Ramaswamy




    His 10 Truths:
    1. God is real.
    2. There are two genders.
    3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
    4. Reverse racism is racism.
    5. An open border is no border.
    6. Parents determine the education of their children.
    7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
    8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
    9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
    10. The U.S. constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

      Also Pro-life.
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    If GOP wins GA and AZ, it’s over.

     
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    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

     
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  26. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    I like Ramaswamy as well. I don't agree with him on everything, but he would be a huge upgrade over what we have. I would love to watch debates between Vivek (R), RFK Jr (D), and Dave Smith (L).
     
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  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  28. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    I can't find a single thing wrong with his Ten Truths. I really like his focus on Number 10 - wish the Dems would realize that.
     
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  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

  30. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    What it means: Scott is a historic candidate. He would be the first black president in American history, and the first president of color whose ancestors were brought to the United States as slaves.

    Context: Barack Obama, the Netflix producer and former president of the United States, was born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya. He was the first mixed-race president in American history.

    • Obama has also been described as America's "first gay president."
     
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