2024 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Garmel said:
It had more to do with several states breaking their own election laws with massive unsecure mail in ballots than anything else. I know you still think its a conspiracy but when people are doing their damnedest to not let you look at public info you should know something is up. You won't like what's coming up in Arizona.
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You and Ron Johnson, a GOP Senator elected in a state where the Dem President won, disagree. I think he has more knowledge on the issue than do you or the Q crowd.
 
OUBubba said:
You and Ron Johnson, a GOP Senator elected in a state where the Dem President won, disagree. I think he has more knowledge on the issue than do you or the Q crowd.
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I deal with facts, not opinions of Senators. Did he do any investigating on his own? Besides, he also recently said there was obvious fraud involved in the nursing home election fraud scandal in wisonsin. Did you miss that? We already caught them deleting info in Arizona. You do know there is an election fraud investigation going on in Arizona, right?

I was at one time a certified network administrator. Novell certified in fact. Yes, an IT guy. If you think Ron Johnson, you, or the MSM know more than me you can keep dreaming.
 
horninchicago said:
You're really good at believing Rs when they go against Rs.
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That shows some honesty. It's like when you say "well, they might have said something hurtful, but, they were drunk". In my mind sometimes those are the truest statements as the shroud is dropped to some extent.
 
Garmel said:
I deal with facts, not opinions of Senators. Did he do any investigating on his own? Besides, he also recently said there was obvious fraud involved in the nursing home election fraud scandal in wisonsin. Did you miss that? We already caught them deleting info in Arizona. You do know there is an election fraud investigation going on in Arizona, right?

I was at one time a certified network administrator. Novell certified in fact. Yes, an IT guy. If you think Ron Johnson, you, or the MSM know more than me you can keep dreaming.
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I was a CIO in a time far away. To think that makes me an expert on anything related to this crap is silly.
 
OUBubba said:
I was a CIO in a time far away. To think that makes me an expert on anything related to this crap is silly.
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Sure, bud. The main difference between you and me is that I don't listen to MSM crap like you do. Your "election fraud is Q Anon nonsense" will age about as well as your takes on Rittenhouse, Covington kids, Russian collusion, etc.. You would think that you would learn but you don't.

Arizona looms ahead. Prepare to be wrong again. The evidence there is overwhelming.
 
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Garmel said:
Sure, bud. The main difference between you and me is that I don't listen to MSM crap like you do. Your "election fraud is Q Anon nonsense" will age about as well as your takes on Rittenhouse, Covington kids, Russian collusion, etc.. You would think that you would learn but you don't.

Arizona looms ahead. Prepare to be wrong again. The evidence there is overwhelming.
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Did they find the bamboo strands?
 
OUBubba said:
Did they find the bamboo strands?
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No. However, according to the upcoming kinematics report they found over 12,000 copied/forged ballots.

Witnesses who worked the 2020 election said they witnessed odd ballots that didn't feel like the others (different paper texture). The team found them.
 
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All the talk of Manchin switching parties made me curious what the stats were for party defectors.

Since 1975, there have been 17 Representatives and 2 Senators switch from the Democratic party to the Republican Party. In that same timeframe, only one Republican has switched to the Democrats (Michael Forbes, New York 1st District).
 
UTChE96 said:
All the talk of Manchin switching parties made me curious what the stats were for party defectors.

Since 1975, there have been 17 Representatives and 2 Senators switch from the Democratic party to the Republican Party. In that same timeframe, only one Republican has switched to the Democrats (Michael Forbes, New York 1st District).
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This is strong evidence of how far left the D party has moved over the last 50 years.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
This is strong evidence of how far left the D party has moved over the last 50 years.
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it really is amazing how far left they've moved in the last 25 years. by today's liberals definition, most of the democrats of 1980-1990 would be more likely Republicans.

Pelosi and others made a miscalculation that they could try to integrate and appease the Sanders crowd and hold together the "big tent" and sell the lie with MSM help about the nature of the BBB plan. They are going to see in the fall that they made a huge miscalculation and the GOP is going to win big. If the GOP will look hard for several more conservative women and minorities to run in legit pick up efforts, we could really impact the "GOP = old angry white men = racist" diatribe that the dem's have come to rely on for virtually every aspect of their agenda.

Rep. Bowman: 'White man' Joe Manchin doesn't care about Black people, immigrants, poor | Fox News
 
UTChE96 said:
only one Republican has switched to the Democrats (Michael Forbes, New York 1st District).
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It was more than that. Jim Jeffords effectively became a Democrat (an independent who caucused with the Democrats). Arlen Specter also switched. However, your point is accurate. Far more Democrats have switched.
 
Mr. Deez said:
It was more than that. Jim Jeffords effectively became a Democrat (an independent who caucused with the Democrats). Arlen Specter also switched. However, your point is accurate. Far more Democrats have switched.
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Completely forgot about Specter. Thanks.
 
He is pushing the vaccine and says it works. Of course its his vaccine, which makes it hilarious that Dems are pushing it so hard.
 
Monahorns said:
He is pushing the vaccine and says it works. Of course its his vaccine, which makes it hilarious that Dems are pushing it so hard.
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I think that if he had been reelected, the politics surrounding the vaccine would be wildly different. I remember when Democrats used to be suspicious of "Big Pharma." They were just behind "Big Oil" on the corporate villain list. I don't think I've heard a Democrat badmouth the pharmaceutical industry in two years.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I think that if he had been reelected, the politics surrounding the vaccine would be wildly different. I remember when Democrats used to be suspicious of "Big Pharma." They were just behind "Big Oil" on the corporate villain list. I don't think I've heard a Democrat badmouth the pharmaceutical industry in two years.
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Truth. The 180 degree has been dizzying for anyone paying attention.

Now we have Leftist legend RFK Jr. writing a book exposing the evil of Fauci and he is being censored and villified by the same people who loved him 5 years ago.

We live in "interesting" times. I wouldn't wish them on anybody.
 
Monahorns said:
We live in "interesting" times. I wouldn't wish them on anybody.
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The generation best prepared for this time period is gen x and their previously derided cynicism. We’re loud, we’re proud, and you are likely full of ****.
 
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