Big 12 Championship

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Waxa, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. Waxa

    Waxa 25+ Posts

    If (a big if) Texas and West Virginia both win out don't they both go to the championship and OU is out???
     
  2. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Yes. WVU would be 8-1. Texas and OU would both be 7-2 and we have the tiebreaker. And I'm 99% sure that scenario prevents anyone else from being any better than 6-3.
     
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  3. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 1,000+ Posts

    How could we be 7-2 if we are now 6-3?
     
  4. dukesteer

    dukesteer 1,000+ Posts

    MD, 7-2 in the conference and 9-3 overall...
     
  5. Matagorda

    Matagorda 25+ Posts

    Yep. Must win out.
     
  6. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Hager Hair Baby

    I would like that rematch with WVU
     
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  7. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 1,000+ Posts

    Ah yes....
    I suddenly feel a little better. ;)
     
  8. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    We should be able to get in If the pokes manage to beat ou also I THINK. That is of course depending on if we win out.
     
  9. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Romantic Catholic

     
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  10. HornDawg1957

    HornDawg1957 100+ Posts

    One thing about Ian Boyd’s analysis: He’s wrong about the tiebreaker situation if OSU beats OU, then OU beats WV, and Texas wins out to forge a three-way tie at 7-2.

    He says we’re in horrible shape there, but he makes the mistake of saying that the point differential is for the entire conference schedule. It’s not; that tiebreaker compares the point differential only in the games between the three tied teams. In this scenario, we’re golden. We beat OU by 3 and lost to WV by 1, for a point-differential total of +2. If OU beats WV, then both those teams cannot end up with a point differential of +2 or better. If OU wins by 1, then WV wins the point differential with them by +0 vs -2; if OU wins by 2, they tie at -1 and OU would presumably advance because of their head-to-head win; if OU wins by 3 or more, they have a better point differential than WV and advance.

    If it comes to the three-team point differential tiebreaker, then WV’s decision to go for the two-point conversion at the end of Saturday’s game could backfire. Yes, they won, but it gave them a 1-point win and prevented them from an opportunity to win the game by 3, 6, or 7 points in overtime. As detailed in the previous paragraph, it means a loss to OU by more than 1 point would result in Texas and OU advancing to the championship game.
     
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  11. wadster

    wadster 2,500+ Posts

    Let's just beat Tech and then see where things stand. At this point just tired of losing by allowing the opposing QB to sprint to the pylon 2 weeks in a row. Whoever is playing DE, stay home. Just once when it matters. Friggin learn from your mistakes. The WVU game pissed me off because we give up a 32 yd TD with 16 seconds to go. But OSU was worse. You can not let the QB just sprint to the pylon on 3rd and 10 even though they were holding downfield. If the DE stays home and doesn't crash inside, that doesn't happen.
     
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  12. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    such a great game....we got a couple of bad calls and that cost us...
     
  13. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 500+ Posts

    Like your points. Why does the safety let someone get behind him with less than a minute to go in the game?
     
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    Dionysus Admin

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  15. envgeo

    envgeo 500+ Posts

    Calls were equally bad on both sides on the WVu game. If you are talking OSU, then I agree - especially the 4th down play that they went on to score a TD on.
     
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  16. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Pet peeve of mine: all sports margins of victory tallies should count OT as 0. Winning by 14 in OT is a closer win than winning by 1 in regulation is.
     
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  17. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    In a way, I would like to see ou and WVa play twice in 7 days. Can you imagine the pushing, pulling, punching and targeting that would go on during those two games? By the end of the CCG both sides would down to almost zero players due to Unsportsmanlike Conduct calls and disqualifications.
     
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  18. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    The really stupid thing about this is that if Oklahoma is down by 6 to West Virginia and scores a touchdown on the final play, their best chance to go to the Big 12 CCG is to go for 2. If they make it, they are in. If they miss it, they still have a shot at an OT win.

    Even more bizarrely, if WVU is down 7 and scores a TD in the final play, they guarantee a berth in the Big 12 CCG by kneeling on the extra point. It would cost them a playoff berth though so it wouldn't be worth it (but it would be if they had lost an out of conference game earlier and thus were out of the National picture), but it's still a stupid system despite this being an unlikely scenario.
     
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  19. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    I'm with Wadster here... let's not count our money at the table... just get a win over tech this week and right the ship.
     
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  20. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Romantic Catholic

    I’m gonna have to step up my posting game. People doing work up in hur! :hookem:
     
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  21. Htown77

    Htown77 2,500+ Posts

    Imagine there are more upsets, OU wins out, beats West Virginia in Morgantown, is sitting at 11-1 and ranked 4th by the playoff committee... then loses to WVU in the rematch and misses the playoffs. The whole 10 team Big 12 title rematch is a stupid system. I honestly hope the above scenario happens since it would be poetic justice as OU demanded this stupid title game.

    Plus that would put Texas in the Alamo Bowl which is a game I think we could win.
     
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  22. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 2,500+ Posts

    When was the last time something came out of Las Colinas (including hires) that wasn't "stupid"?

    Against Chris Petersen & Washington? He has an axe to grind and will try to blow up the AlamoDome scoreboard. Against Stanford? Maybe.

    God help us if it turns out to be Leach.
     
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  23. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    What has ou done the last several years that makes you think they would actually lose the game? They will win their 4th consecutive this year.
     
  24. Htown77

    Htown77 2,500+ Posts

    Have you seen their defense? Unless WVU has an off game like against Iowa State, I am just not sure OU stops them.

    I do not think I would bet that WVU has an off game twice in a row.

    In all likelihood, WVU beats OU in Morgantown.
     
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  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    I'm talking CCG in your scenario of a rematch of those two teams. ou finds a way to win the conference most of the time.
     
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  26. Omniscient.one

    Omniscient.one 250+ Posts

    Looked like McCullough’s fault to me
     
  27. Omniscient.one

    Omniscient.one 250+ Posts

    Can a team win by 14 in OT. Maybe 13 if there was a pick 6 following aTD
     
  28. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Yeah I said on the other thread that the LBs haven't been in position since about the TCU game. Wheeler and McCulloch, in particular, seem to just watch the backfield for developments and then react however the wind is blowing instead of playing percentages. The two-point conversion is a prime example of this, with McCulloch crashing into the interior while Grier just galloped to the corner.
     
  29. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    If you went for 2 after the first TD (which is mandatory starting in the 3rd OT period) and made it, then got a defensive score. Never actually seen it happen.
     
  30. Omniscient.one

    Omniscient.one 250+ Posts

    Touche
     

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