Big XII Fans - SEC Fans - Difference ?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by DRAG69, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. DRAG69

    DRAG69 1,000+ Posts


    SEC fans that absolutely hate Florida with a passion are slobbering all over Tebow and the Gators right now hoping they win for the conference.

    Big XII fans that hate OU hope they get absolutely drilled by Florida tonight and don't give a **** about Big XII versus the SEC.

    Conference pride is lame and overrated and pretty much only exists in the SEC. No one else cares. Get over yourself.

    Go Gators !
  2. Aces_Full

    Aces_Full 500+ Posts

    I am a HS coach near the TX/La border, and we have several coaches here originally from La. There are all LSU homers and are all SEC jacking bigtime right now. Even after Alabama got their asses handed to them. Every other coach that roots for Texas is pulling for the Gators tonight too. F OU. And F all of the LSU bandwagon jumping, SEC jacking, fair weather Gator fans.
  3. Bob in Houston

    Bob in Houston 2,500+ Posts

    There are some ACC fans who go in for the group thing. They don't seem to get as many chances to chant, though.
  4. mr. sunshine

    mr. sunshine 250+ Posts

    I thought the conference pride thing seemed fairly cool, so I gave it a try for a season. No mas. There's absolutely no pay off.
  5. TxnByBirth

    TxnByBirth 1,000+ Posts

    Not every fan shares that sentiment. Have a friend who is a UGA grad who's rooting with every fiber of her being for oklahoma.

    Wanted me to root for ou as well. I told her to think of the team she hated most, multiply that by about a million billion and that's how much I hated ou and wanted them to get slaughtered. She wrote back, "that's Florida for me."
  6. BrothaHorn

    BrothaHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Don't discount the Good Ole Boy syndrome and the fact that outside of Arkansas these teams have been together for quite some time..Actually AR fits right in w/ the stereotypes..
  7. Knoxville-Horn

    Knoxville-Horn 1,000+ Posts

    I live in TN and absolutely do not understand it. I guess it's a way to feel better about your own team if it sucks. Kind of like, "well we got our asses handed to us but let's root for the team that did it." [​IMG]
  8. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson 250+ Posts

    There are certain benefits to having your conference be successful. Let's look at two conferences, the SEC and the Big 10.

    Let's say I'm a UGA fan, and UGA and Penn State both finish with one loss, but only one will make the MNC game. Who do you think the pollsters are going to vote for? UGA - based off the SEC's success over the past few years, coupled with the Big 10's demise. Having the same record in the SEC is seen as much more difficult to accomplish than in the Big 10. And that reputation comes from success during bowl games.

    This year's Florida team was probably helped by past success from SEC teams.

    If I'm a fan of team that finishes 6th in the SEC, I get in a better bowl if two teams from my conference make BCS games. And I get more money from the conference, hence better facilities, better recruiting, etc.

    If Alabama loses to Clemson to open the season, they might not have gone to a BCS bowl. So the SEC loses out on $13 million and everyone in the conference moves down a bowl. So, I root for Alabama when they played Clemson.

    Same thing in basketball. For example, SEC basketball sucks right now. So not nearly as many teams make the Tourney every year. The SEC's reputation in hoops has dropped dramtically over the past 7-8 years. This hurts everyone in the conference. Because of that, I will be rooting for all SEC teams in the postseason.

    Does that make any sense to you?
  9. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    Don Johnson's got it. SEC fans care the most about college football, follow it more closely, and thus know more about it, so they understand those things.

    Pushback against the media is part of it, too. Media types like flag football, and prefer it to the sort of football that wins championships. SEC success proves them wrong.
  10. TexLaw04

    TexLaw04 500+ Posts

    Eh, it depends ... for example, I rooted for every other Big 12 school in their bowl games, but I won't root for OU because they're our most hated team (I was a bit ambivalent about Tech this year, though). Still, having your conference perform well does do good for you in the long run.

    That being said, conference pride is overrated, and lots of people in the SEC have taken it way too far. However, as some of the earlier posters have indicated, there are large exceptions for hated rivals. Take the Georgia fan that will not be rooting for Florida tonight - I bet there are many others. I'm sure there were plenty of Auburn and Tennessee fans that loved seeing 'Bama get beat, too.

    Bottom line, conference "pride" can be good sometimes, but it's gotten way out of hand with the BCS and all the poll rankings/SoS analysis that has to go into it nowadays. Chalk up another argument for a playoff.
  11. Dirtybucks90

    Dirtybucks90 25+ Posts

    My Georgia Friend said the exact same thing. He went almost as far as saying he hates florida more than i hate Oklahoma.
  12. CTGA_Horn

    CTGA_Horn 250+ Posts

  13. mackfan1

    mackfan1 1,000+ Posts

    Until they award crystal footballs for Best Conference, I will continue to pull for UT and whoever's playing Blow U. [​IMG]
  14. DRAG69

    DRAG69 1,000+ Posts

  15. Texas_Rocks

    Texas_Rocks 500+ Posts

    How have the horns fared against SEC teams in the last few years?
  16. White Castle

    White Castle 100+ Posts

    I get how a stronger conference can subsequently make your school look stronger, but I'll never understand hearing the S-E-C chant by fans/players at the stadium right after a win. I think I remember LSU players and fans doing this after they won the title last year.

    So you care more about the conference than your own team? Really?? Seems like an L-S-U chant would be more appropriate. Ridiculous.
  17. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

  18. DRAG69

    DRAG69 1,000+ Posts

  19. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

  20. Texas_Rocks

    Texas_Rocks 500+ Posts

  21. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

  22. Texas_Rocks

    Texas_Rocks 500+ Posts

    Let me see if I've got this right. You want me to tell you "How" when you don't even have the courtesy to answer the question that I asked you before hand? WTF is up with that?
  23. horngrad03

    horngrad03 250+ Posts

  24. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

  25. Lidig8r

    Lidig8r 250+ Posts

    My two diplomas say....

    The University of Texas at Austin


    The University of the Big XII.

    Because we are Texas, if we take care of business, we will be there.
  26. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson 250+ Posts

  27. TULPoke

    TULPoke 100+ Posts

    From a Poke perspective:

    Last night's game was a lose-lose situation. If Oklahoma wins, I have to hear all GD year about how great these morons think they are and see 500,000 new t-shirts every day walking down the road on the gypsies that roam the area.

    If Florida wins, I have to hear all off-season from the SEC circle jerk that has somehow permeated into the national media. Also, the SEC gets to sign billion dollar TV contracts that allow their member institutions to have massive recruiting budgets, massive budgets to steal our assistant coaches, and their inbred fans can get into games for about 1/4 of the cost of going to a game in Stillwater.

    However, the satisfaction of hearing every single local media moron (including news anchors and weathermen) whine about every aspect of last night's competition and contemplate firing Stoops is truly priceless. I can simply turn off the ESPN or whoever is pimping the SEC at that time, while the Sooner labor force is something that I have to deal with and employ every day of my life.

    So I congratulate Florida.
  28. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts


    Serious question: does it really cost ~ $250 to go to an Ok. St game?
  29. Fritz

    Fritz 500+ Posts

    Don Johnson - I understand everything you're saying. I root for everyone in the Big 12 outside of ATM and OU when they play.

    What I don't get is the S-E-C chant right after LSU wins the NC. When I was at the Rose Bowl for UT's win over USC, it never occurred to me to chant Big-12 (Big-one-two?) at that time. I realize that the history of the SEC is deeper than the Big 12, but even back in the SWC days it wouldn't have struck me as something to do or revel in.
  30. TULPoke

    TULPoke 100+ Posts

    Face on my tickets is $350.

    But I think upper-corner seats are in the $100 range.

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