Big XII Fans - SEC Fans - Difference ?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by DRAG69, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    Bob in Houston,

    Alabama was not the SEC champion. Florida was the SEC champion, and Florida played in (and won) the game last night.

    nothingsacred,

    LSU jumped ahead of teams ranked above them that didn't lose that weekend, and was chosen over teams with the same number of losses that didn't lose that weekend.

    Both of you,

    Stop working backwards, and consider the evidence as it sits. It won't make you more popular on Hornfans, but will make you more successful in real life.
     
  2. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson 250+ Posts


     
  3. nothingsacred

    nothingsacred 25+ Posts


     
  4. nothingsacred

    nothingsacred 25+ Posts

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  5. Laphroaig10

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  6. nothingsacred

    nothingsacred 25+ Posts

    Are you high? Are you just ignoring LSU's .16 jump in the computer rankings - higher than anyone else? That makes everything else irrelevant - just like it has every year when situations like that occur. I guess Massey takes chanting into account.
     
  7. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    LSU had a decisive lead in each human poll that amounted to 2.5-3 times its lead over #3 in the computers. THAT is what made the rest irrelevant. I'm not ignoring that; you're ignoring the #s and what they say, just like you're ignoring the situation this year, and in '06 when Florida and Michigan tied in the computers and the humans put Florida over the top.

    As for the chanting, the issue isn't the chanting; it's what it represents. SEC fans follow football, so they know that increased conference stature helps. Since 3 years in a row, after the embarrassment caused voters by the snubbing of the SEC champ, the SEC champ has been voted in, it sounds like they've got this figured out.
     
  8. Texanne

    Texanne 5,000+ Posts

    Much like the attitude in the South leading up to the "War of Northern Aggression," the member schools of the SEC see it as "us against the world".

    They still see themselves united as a confederacy.
     
  9. nothingsacred

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  10. JuniorHorn11

    JuniorHorn11 25+ Posts

    I understand rooting for the team in your conference, but talking sh*t when the team in your conference wins the national title (like Alabama fans are doing) is just dumb.
     
  11. Huckleberry

    Huckleberry 1,000+ Posts

    Laphroaig -

    The SEC was down in 2004. They are up now, that's true. But the conference wasn't nearly as strong in 2004 as it was this year or the last couple.
     
  12. DeadHorse

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  13. Laphroaig10

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  14. Laphroaig10

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  15. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson 250+ Posts


     
  16. DeadHorse

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  17. The Big Unit

    The Big Unit 100+ Posts

    Yeah it's pretty pathetic to see LSU fans gloating about the "domination of Florida over the crappy litte 12 representative". Considering that their team didn't even end up in a final top 25 poll it's really sad that they are trying to claim some little piece of the National Championship just because a team in their conference won.
     
  18. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson 250+ Posts


     
  19. DeadHorse

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  20. Huckleberry

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  21. AstroVol

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  22. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson 250+ Posts


     
  23. DeadHorse

    DeadHorse 1,000+ Posts

    "My big brother can beat up your big brother."
     
  24. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    Huckleberry,

    I disagree, but let's assume, arguendo, that you're correct. That still makes my point. The perception was that winning a down SEC - even going undefeated in a down in SEC with arguably the most dominating season in the conference's history - wasn't as impressive as squeaking past some middle of the pack Big XII teams or low end Pac-10 teams, especially with an OOC that was considered "weak." That's not the case anymore (there were a lot of people suggesting that the SEC was "down" this year relative to the past couple, esp. b/c of the disappointments of preseason top 10s Georgia, LSU, and Auburn, but UF still got the nod).
     
  25. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    DeadHorse, BobinHouston, nothingsacred, et. al,

    This season, one team ended the regular season with 0 losses. That team was Utah. The voters did not place Utah at #1 or #2 in either human poll prior to the bowls. Why is that?
     
  26. Bob in Houston

    Bob in Houston 2,500+ Posts

    Answering a question with an irrelevant question doesn't advance the discussion... which, originally, was a query as to why SEC fans stick together.

    Do you really contend that they stick together because that makes them look better to poll voters?
     
  27. kgp

    kgp 1,000+ Posts

    Arguing with Laph is like arguing with a computer game programmed never to give in or admit it's FOS. He wouldn't admit he was FOS after his claim Muschamp to Auburn = done deal was debunked either, per usual. Be glad we are Horns and dont bother trying to educate those with a demonstrated unwillingness tolearn.
     
  28. Laphroaig10

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