Black Lives Matter; The Cerebral Warlords of Our Time

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  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

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    Sometimes poop is more appropriate than WTF
     
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  2. Run Pincher

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  3. Mr. Deez

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    Everybody was dumb here. The pizza thieves obviously should have told the delivery driver the truth. However, the victims of the theft should never have shown up at their house. They should have called the pizza place and told them they made a mistake. I'm sure they would have brought them another one.
     
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  5. mchammer

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  6. Run Pincher

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    2 arrested in Dadeville shooting. I imagine no names due too them being minors. No mention of motive. Probably wanna be gangsters. I wonder which would have a greater impact in violent crime: A) Making firearms illegal or B) We all work together(especially black leaders) to change and eliminate the gangsta culture.
    2 teens arrested in Alabama Sweet 16 shooting that killed 4 and injured 32 (nbcnews.com)
     
  7. mb227

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    Article you linked now has names of the two yutes and there is also mention of someone having been barred from entrance due to having a firearm...

    No photos, but the names seem to identify the demographic.
     
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  8. guy4321

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    Liberal: Donchya know that system is racist thus those results are expected?
     
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  10. horninchicago

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    Yeah ask Kyle Rittenhouse about no names being mentioned as a minor.
     
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  12. mb227

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    Motive was alluded to in one of the earlier articles when a witness said certain people were denied entrance due to carrying firearms.

    Putting two and two together, these Phi Beta PuttaCappaInYoAssa candidates felt dissed at being turned away and opened fire as retaliation...
     
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  13. mchammer

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    More folks die in grain silos each year than unarmed blacks killed by police:

     
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  17. guy4321

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    Fun propositions for the residents of Austin this week inspired by you can guess what.

    Prop A
    Shall the voters of Austin adopt an initiated ordinance, circulated by Equity Action, that will deter police misconduct and brutality by strengthening the City’s system of independent and transparent civilian police oversight?

    Prop B
    Shall the voters of Austin adopt an initiated ordinance, circulated by Voters for Oversight and Police Accountability, that will strengthen the City’s system of independent and transparent civilian police oversight?
     
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  18. Mr. Deez

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    When in doubt, vote No on all local initiatives and bonds. And if you are considering voting for one or more of them, study them more carefully and reconsider. They're probably bad even if they superficially look good.
     
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  19. guy4321

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    The background is an anti-police org got enough signatures for prop A. A pro-cop org saw that happening so they got enough signatures for prop B. It's Austin so I doubt B passes. No one knows what happens if both pass. Well, we know the courts will decide.
     
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  20. Monahorns

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    Police accountability is a good thing. They are more likely to get away with misconduct than be punished for something they didn't do. I support the idea or theory. However, I am not sure if the bills are any good. The "independent" oversight is probably appointed by and composed of radical leftists. So not worth it. But it would be good to have community votes or random appointments to a board like that to hear cases.
     
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  21. mb227

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    On the bright side, enough turned out to force the end of the sidewalk camping permission that Adler, et al, allowed to fester...
     
  22. Mr. Deez

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    And this is what's sad. There's a real case to be made for better police accountability and criminal justice reform in general. I have no problem with ending qualified immunity, focusing attention away from incarceration for drug users and toward treatment, and improving indigent defense.

    Unfortunately, "accountability" has become a euphemism for left wing crackpots pushing lawlessness and the racial politicization of justice. Accountability and reform don't mean refusing to prosecute shoplifters, going easy on true violent offenders, or pushing the laundry list of lunacy that BLM and other social justice idiots advocate.
     
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  23. mb227

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    Treatment only works if the drug user is motivated to change. Most are not, which is something we saw after State Jails were created.

    The goal eas treatment and probation, but the druggie population was more like 'f*ck probation and treatment, just give me my 180 days.'
     
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  24. Facing Addiction

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  25. Mr. Deez

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    Two points on this. First, I think we need to ask how effective incarceration has been in stopping drug abuse. I don't see much evidence that it has been. Second, there are things we can do to incentivize and therefore motivate treatment.
     
  26. Horn6721

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    Mr D
    What are some thing we can do to incentivize and therefore motivate treatment?
     
  27. Monahorns

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    One way even though it is cruel is to do less for the homeless. Give them those who are motivated opportunities to work and get off the street. But those who are drug addicted and resisting help shouldn't be kept alive on the backs of others working paycheck to paycheck.
     
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  28. mb227

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    I don't care if incarceration does anything to stop abuse. If they don't want treatment as a condition of probation, then incarceration is the only other viable option to at least temporarily prevent THAT individual from preying upon society through the commission of other crimes that help feed the habit.

    Incentivization just means the druggies adapt to making 'promises' in order to get some manner of free crap. If they are not motivated for change, then it is a waste of time. Sometimes, a horse just doesn't want to drink, no matter HOW many times you led it to the trough.

    I've had clients who ultimately realized that they either needed to make a change or they would be dead, but it wasn't a change that came through any manner of treatment. THEY had to make the decision. One moved completely out of State and realized also that they could NEVER return to the Dallas area because of negative influences there...she ultimately traded the meth addiction for a physical fitness addiction. There is still an addiction mindset, but at least physical fitness is healthy.
     
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  29. mb227

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    ^^^THIS

    Most shelters ask two simple things of the homeless...be willing to look for work (if physically capable) and don't do drugs. Some won't even do the first but many more refuse to comply with the second.

    I've got no qualms with bouncing both categories from any government-funded shelter. If a privately funded group wants to keep them, that is THEIR decision, but doesn't involve public monies...
     
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  30. Horn6721

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    Mr D
    What are some thing we can do to incentivize and therefore motivate treatment?
     

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