Calderon says he won't return unless...

Discussion in 'Men’s Basketball' started by VinceFord, May 22, 2008.

  1. VinceFord

    VinceFord 100+ Posts

    ...he is guaranteed the staring job. It's looking more and more like TJ will not be a Raptor next season.


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    I have a related question. As a restricted free agent, can Calderon accept a lower offer from a team other than the Raptors?

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  2. UTeric32

    UTeric32 500+ Posts

    No, as a restricted free agent the option is with the team, not the player

    And im not against TJ moving, screw the Raptors and everyone not named Bosh
     
  3. South Austin

    South Austin 2,500+ Posts

    This development pleases me, because I would love for TJ to get out of Toronto. I think the Seattle/Oklahoma City Sonics could use his services.
     
  4. Vicerous

    Vicerous 100+ Posts

    As much as I love TJ, they have no need for him right now. Calderon proved this season that he can be a good starter and the Raptors have many needs, none of which include paying 2 starting point guards. Get CB4 another top scoring threat and I think they will at least compete in the East in a few years.
     
  5. ballrific

    ballrific 500+ Posts

    please trade TJ to the Rockets for skip to my lou and some cash..
     
  6. longhornfan2818

    longhornfan2818 250+ Posts

    I think a change of scenery would be gogod for TJ,
     
  7. gasemitter

    gasemitter 100+ Posts


     
  8. moosejaw

    moosejaw < 25 Posts

    the sonics should draft oj mayo and trade their late 1st for tj. that would be a fun team to watch.
     

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  10. TJ=NPOY

    TJ=NPOY 100+ Posts

    Sorry husker, but I don't agree with you that rafer is "fine" for this team. Rafer had a career year shooting the ball but with T-Mac's assortment of injuries it behooves the team to cut his minutes and lessen his workload. Rafer is not in TJ's league when it comes to drive and dish plays.

    It would do mcgrady wonders to have a PG like TJ Ford who can handle creating shots for the team, putting less stress on his body and letting him work off the ball.

    And yes they need a shooter, but mainly need a backup SG/SF behind battier.
     
  11. ballrific

    ballrific 500+ Posts

    rafer is far from fine; ive never seen someone say anything decent about him, much less that he's the answer at pg. he's a horrible pg compared to tj. he's the master of taking a ****** shots at the worst times..
     
  12. lnghrn005

    lnghrn005 250+ Posts

    If they could add Ford, I guess Jackson/Head/Brooks is the backup and then maybe get a shooter, they should have gone after Korver, all it would have taken was a matching expiring contract, the Rockets will be deadly next season.
     
  13. With Rafer playing the full load, the Rockets were 2-1 against Utah.

    With him hurt and missing significant minutes, Houston was 0-3.

    Just saying.
     
  14. whereiend

    whereiend 100+ Posts

    I don't know if TJ is that great playing off the ball though. Rafer isn't the perfect answer for the Rockets, but I think he's a little bit better 3 point shooter and defender than TJ is. Which is what you really need next to Yao and T-Mac. Considering the Rockets would probably have to give up someone like Battier to make that trade happen, I don't think it would be worth it.

    TJ would be awesome on a team full of athletes that can run the court and finish at the rim, like what Nash has had in Phoenix with Marion and Amare. He really needs to be the #1 ball handler though, I don't think he would work well having T-Mac and Yao take 2/3 of the possessions.
     
  15. UTeric32

    UTeric32 500+ Posts


     
  16. That's Right

    That's Right 500+ Posts

    TJ to LAL = championships for years to come. Not a Lakers fan, but I would be.
     

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  18. whereiend

    whereiend 100+ Posts

    To me TJ would be better on a team with athletes like Atlanta or Philly. On the lakers it would be the same situation as Houston, with Kobe doing all the ball handling.

    TJ would be an all star if he swapped places with Chris Paul (not as good as Paul mind you, but an all star.) He really needs to handle the ball 80% of the time and have a team around him that can deal with that. Outside of Bosh the Raptors just have a bunch of a unathletic 3 point shooters though. All you gotta do is face guard them tightly and play TJ 1v1, which turns him into a scorer and takes him away from his strengths.

    Even on the Raptor's TJ an extremely productive player when given minutes though. IMO if he gets traded Raptor fans will end regretting it a little just like Milwaukee fans do. Calderon is a careful passer with an excellent outside shot, but he's quite terrible defensively and cannot enter the lane without a ball screen. He's ideal for playing off of a Bosh ISO or running the pick and roll, but he has a real hard time creating offense for others.
     
  19. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts


     
  20. VinceFord

    VinceFord 100+ Posts


     
  21. The Greatest

    The Greatest 500+ Posts


     
  22. VinceFord

    VinceFord 100+ Posts


     
  23. UTeric32

    UTeric32 500+ Posts

    When I say mediocre I am thinking about "elite PGs" "mediocre PGs" and "bad PGs"

    I love TJ, but I just dont think he is elite. I cannot put him in the same league as Paul, Williams, Parker, Nash...

    You show his stats, and they look good, but we both know stats dont tell the entire story. He is very out of control at times, and while his shot is a million times better than it was in college, he still needs work.

    And he gets absolutely abused defensively by any PG bigger than him, which is most of the league. Again, I love TJ, and maybe mediocre is a little unfair on the scale. I guess he would fall somewhere inbetween that and "elite".
     
  24. gdavis

    gdavis 250+ Posts

    TJ to the Blazers would work for me. He has to be on a team with the #1 pick - right. Plus it would keep his streak alive of playing as far from TX as possible. They have a nice nucleus, a PG coach, and a real need for a PG.
     

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