Can anyone justify NOT having the Wall?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    What more does the left need to happen in order for them to be snapped back to reality on this issue?
     
  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    How or what will we USA do if illegals continue to storm the border?
    We can't do much more than tear gas. We saw we let in the illegal was dragging her diapered school age kids. Now we can spend our taxpayer money taking care of them for years.
    How many more can we afford?
    I need to find Schumer's stand on illegals from 2009.
     
  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Trust me. It was dumb luck more than anything. And there was a downside. I dated her while I was preparing for and taking the Bar exam. Not easy to study with a chick like that around.
     
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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I confirmed that they were the real thing pretty early on. And confirming that for the first time was like opening a Christmas card from you granddad and finding a million dollar check in it.
     
  5. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    A Dem in the White House. Maybe.
     
  6. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Kirstjen Nielsen testimony today -- she expects her department to apprehend 900,000 illegal immigrants at the border this year, both between ports of entry and at border crossings.

    "Illegal immigrations is simply spiraling out of control. We have drugs, criminal and violence spilling into our country every week. Make no mistake, this is getting worse..."

    She added that DHS has to give a pregnancy test to "every girl over 10" who enters the country illegal at the southern border. "This is not a safe journey."
    And, thus, Democrats and Trump-haters opposed to border security are rape-enablers.

     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is insanity
    And it means Trump was accurate by pressing this issue last year


     
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Again I ask you, what are all of these uneducated, low-skill immigrants going to do once robotics/technology have taken all their jobs away?

    (I am looking for an answer other than "reliably vote for Democrats)
     
  10. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Some libs are now starting to believe that there is an immigration crisis but they're blaming Trump for it. You can't make this **** up. :lmao:
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He is going to have to shut the entire southern border down. Probably using the military. And soon

    The current influx is roughly a city the size of San Francisco each year. Which is wholly unsustainable. Allowing it to continue is idiotic and suicidal. With the Legislative Branch sitting on its hands in the face of this, the Executive Branch has no choice but to act. I would argue that it is duty-bound to act. Failure to act, under these circumstances, is a breach of the oath of office, a dereliction of duty and perhaps even unconstitutional.
     
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  12. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    He has a phone and a pen.
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    And this is what opposition to the Wall is all about
    Democrats know they cannot win future elections without the illgeal immigrant vote
    Same reason they always fight attempts to root out voter fraud

    "House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting"
    House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.

    The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.

    “We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

    The 228-197 vote came as part of a broader debate on Democrats’ major legislative priority this year, HR 1, the “For the People Act,” which includes historic expansions of voter registration and access, as well as a major rewrite of campaign finance laws.

    House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting
     
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  14. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  17. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Well with illegals getting to vote I really do wonder if there’s a need for the wall. At least it certainly reduces reasons by one.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  19. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

  20. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I'm for more border security and more resources. I could even see that we may need some more walls than we currently have. I've always said that. I just thought we could spend $5B in a smarter way...and that a contiguous 2,500 mile wall is stupid.

    From that link it appears that border crossings haven't risen to the level that they were under W. So, where's the emergency?
     
  21. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    It was an emergency back then as well but we ignored it just like you are now. It's probably worse now because of the heavier drug flow coming through. If you think 2000+ miles of 21-30' walls won't work you're living in the Land of Oz. Even the 10-12' walls that we have now have worked pretty well.
     
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    My response? The NYT is reporting that Border and Customs is saying it's at a 'Breaking Point'. Notice the quotes?

    [Insert preferred insult here for not understanding grammar rules.]
     
  23. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    John Kelly thinks your proposal is a "waste of money".
     
  24. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Why would I care what he thinks? The people who work on the border say differently.
     
  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Remind us what authority John Kelly has and what expertise on border issues he has.
     
  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    He was Secretary of Homeland Security. He also believed in the wall until it was cool to go against Trump.
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Operative word,"was".
     
  28. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Again, you've nailed it, Joe. The Constitution charges the Executive branch with enforcing the laws of the country. I have one question I'd like to ask Nancy Pelosi - "What is there that you don't understand about the word 'illegal?'"
     
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  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    But what are we to do with all the Illegal Bubbas?
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If Trump were allowed a do-over of year one, this would be at the top of the list. But trusting Paul Ryan will, of course, always be #1.
     
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