Can anyone justify NOT having the Wall?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    Their liberals are smarter than our liberals?
     
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  2. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I don't know. If our liberals get any worse they're going to usher in an idiocracy.
     
  3. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Wait what? Canada will send illegals back? Why would they do that? Where's the outcry for better treatment and compassion?
     
  4. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

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  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    My default position is to vote "No" on all bonds. I'm not saying I never vote for any bond initiative, but the default is "No," and that's enough to keep me from voting for pretty much all but maybe 1 out of 20 bond initiatives.
     
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    How there can be a question that we must know who is coming into our country?
     
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  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Because white people.
     
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  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Mr D
    I forgot. Stupid me.
     
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  10. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    If Democrats want to lose, do more of this. Link.
     
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  12. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    The sad thing about that story is I am not the least bit surprised about the booing, In fact, I expected to read about even more disgusting behavior than that.
     
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  13. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Democrats. What an ironic name for this group of miscreants.
     
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  14. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Why does it seem like Tucker Carlson is the only big media person willing to cover certain stories?

     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  18. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

  19. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Derp

     
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  20. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    There’s an argument for providing too much information to dissuade people from starting the trek north.
     
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  21. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    The fraud can't answer a simple question.

     
  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    She's stupid not to just be honest, because there is a plausible and defensible answer. "Yes, but almost everybody will be money ahead, because health insurance premiums, copays, deductibles, and coinsurance will go away. Furthermore, Medicare will be able to use its power as a single payer to significantly negotiate down healthcare costs. That means that the tax increase will be far smaller than the amount saved by not having to cover health insurance premiums and inflated costs."

    I doubt it would actually happen this way, but this is the standard answer to this question, and it can be defended by bringing up what other nations with national healthcare systems do. It's a lot easier to defend than what's very obviously a lie.
     
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  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Medicare premiums today are below the costs of hospitals and doctors. So to have Medicare run the whole healthcare system and then negotiate prices down, would lead to the end of all medical care in the US.

    If only Warren knew enough to say that.
     
  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    #blacklivesmatter (unless he's killed by an illegal alien. Then who gives a ****?)

    Edit - he didn't get off that light. He got 16 years, not 3.5. (I think that's still pretty light for a double-fatality DWI in which he tried to flea the scene. The 3.5 years was for illegal entry.
     
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  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    But nobody will call her on that point. If she had spouted what I suggested, Colbert would have let it go, and 98 percent of the mainstream media would accept that answer unchallenged. And of course, Trump doesn't have the ability to discuss any issue to that degree of nuance.
     
  27. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    You seem to always underestimate Trump.
     
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  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Give me an example of him discussing an issue to that level of nuance.
     
  29. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I can't think of one where he did. However, his actions(and results) when it comes to the economy proves he knows what he's doing. I know you want to believe that he's stupid but he's not.
     
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  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    No, I think Deez is saying Trump uses debating points like a sledgehammer, rather than a surgeon's scalpel. I don't think he is saying Trump is dumb, rather that he is very forceful, direct, and blunt (which I find refreshing in a politician).
     
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