Can anyone justify NOT having the Wall?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Bad story mc. Can’t understand why Kamala doesn’t jump on that. Well I can but just sayin.
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    She should be jumping on that like she jumped on Willie Brown.
     
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  3. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Maybe that’s the problem for her - this might take a little longer.
     
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  4. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    It must be devastating. It is not like these farm workers can pick up and move

    Why would the field owners do this? They have to vet the S. Africans pay to get them here, provide housing AND pay them more. Much more expensive than paying locals
    Is there a current shortage if workers there in the Delta?
     
  5. humahuma

    humahuma 500+ Posts

    From Fox News. Biden thinks there is a problem at the border, problem is it’s the wrong border.

    President Biden on Friday said the situation on the border between Belarus and Poland is of "great concern" -- as a growing number of migrants is leading to increased tensions in the region, and accusations that Belarus and Moscow are manufacturing a crisis.

    "I think it’s of great concern," Biden told reporters. "We’ve communicated our concern to Russia, we’ve communicated our concern to Belarus. We think it’s a problem."
     
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  6. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    Saw a commentator last night that highlighted Komedya, err Kamala saying the same thing and believes it COULD actually be that the problem is that a nation actually IS trying to enforce a border.
     
  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I can see where a sovereign nation enforcing its' border to protect the citizens is a problem for BidenHarris Soros
     
  8. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    Not sure what to think about this. But I love the irony of "white South African cotton pickers". I thought we were supposed to hate white supremacist, apartheid-loving white South Africans, and I imagined the notion of them being forced to work the cotton fields would have been received positively as "whitey getting what's coming to him". But no. Even when the white man is doing the manual labor job most quintessentially tied to the image of the racist Deep South, somebody finds an angle to piss and moan about it.
     
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  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Ultimately I'm sympathetic to both of them. I'm sympathetic to black farm workers who are getting undercut by foreign workers, and I'm sympathetic to the South African workers who likely are getting screwed in their home country. That's a legitimate contention regardless of any racial element. What is too politically incorrect to admit is that the West f'd up in South Africa.

    I understand why they came after the apartheid government. It was bad, but we were stupid about how we did it. We paid too little attention to and put too little priority on what took its place. Even though he had Marxist roots and leanings, I do think Mandela at least generally tried to pull things together and to be in the international mainstream. He mostly left the economic policies of the previous government (which were fairly market-oriented) in place. However, things started to skid off the rails several years ago, and now it's a corrupt ****-show with little rule of law and where racism against whites is basically tolerated. If you're a white farm worker (or a white anybody who isn't politically connected), it's gonna suck to be you. It's kinda hard to blame them for wanting to leave.
     
  10. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    After reading this again I am calling BS on how it is presented here. There is a HUGE piece of info missing

    Does anyone really think a field owner would advertise and identify white South Africans, pay to vet ( although they might be easier to vet than somalians)
    pay to bring them here and house them AND pay them so much more?
    Why?
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yeah, I'm not sure how that's being incentivized, but somebody has to be tipping the scales to make that profitable. It could be the South African government paying to get these white people out of their country.
     
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Deez
    Never thought of that.
    It doesn't say how many have come.
     
  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    I wonder if any of them came illegally via the US/Mexico border. :smokin:
     
  14. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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