CDC: Please start looking for a new Basketball HC NOW!!

Discussion in 'Men’s Basketball' started by Horn87, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    Shaka is NOT the answer----you have 4 months to get it done
  2. longhornlegend

    longhornlegend 25+ Posts

    Have you ever seen a more pathetic excuse for offense? We have whats rated as very good recruiting classes but almost zero production once they arrive. There is no movement on offense and I have to believe the design is just hang out around the 3 pt line and hope for an open shot. Its just one on one playground BS that hasnt worked in 3+ years. I will be here long after shaka is gone but its way past time. CDC, open your eyes.
  3. VulcanHorn

    VulcanHorn 100+ Posts

    That had to be one of the most frustrating games I've ever attended. Team looks confused and indecisive on offense. Our free throw shooting is horrible. Our shot selection is terrible. And the atmosphere in the Drum reflects that.

    All while Rick Barnes and Tennessee sit at #5 in the nation.

    I have to agree, Shaka hasn't shown anything as far as progress goes. Turn on the seat warmers. The Hot Seat is warming up!
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  4. longhorn47

    longhorn47 250+ Posts

    I wonder if Archie Miller would leave Indiana? I think his offense would match up well with this offense. BTW, is Andrew Jones ever going to see the court again?
  5. Win

    Win 100+ Posts

    The atmosphere at the Drum has been like that for years except when a big time schools comes in. Even then, it doesn't kick up until about 5 minutes left in the game.
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  6. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    Agree, except somehow Shaka has made the atmosphere worse, which I did not think was possible.
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  7. TxnByBirth

    TxnByBirth 1,000+ Posts

    Bob Weltlich wants you to hold his beer.
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  8. VulcanHorn

    VulcanHorn 100+ Posts

    The atmosphere now reminds me of what DKR used to be before CDC got rid of all the marketing crap. Every timeout there's a "contest" promoting free pizza, sandwiches, jewelry, etc. We all watch in true boredom while forgetting where we left off in the game at the timeout. Wouldn't be surprised if jetpack-man makes an appearance during halftime.
  9. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    aw, Kaiser Bob!!! unfortunately during my tenure on the 40...
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  10. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    I'm sorry, is that the same coach whose starters lost by 40-50 points in the unauthorized game against the University Intramural Champions made up of football players, including Tony Jones (all 5'5" at PG). TE William Harris at C, Everett Gay, DB Steven Braggs, and a few others who escape my memory?

  11. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    I remember an article with interview excerpts within it in the Alcalde shortly after Kaiser Bob came to the 40 Acres.

    Remember, it was a time of SWC being a fairly good, though perhaps overlooked basketball conference, what with Phi Slamma Jamma echos in Houston, Sutton coaching at piggy, IIRC aggy and SMU put some decent teams on the hardwood, and of course Texas had just fired Abe Lemons, leaving a bad taste in the mouths of many Longhorn BB fans (myself included).

    Abe started out at Texas by taking over Leon Black's leftovers, adding a couple and in a couple of years got Texas an NIT championship (back when it kind of still meant something; I don't think the SWC got more than its champion into the NCAAs, I think still at 32 teams). Abe took what he could get playerwise, adapting his style to match the talent who signed on.

    After getting the ball rolling, he finally got what he needed, what Al Maguire commented on during a Texas game doing color: "What Abe needs is a couple of 'aircraft carriers' to go with his outside shooters." What he meant was a couple of bigs; viola! Mike Wacker (a Texan, his father TCU's football HC) and LaSalle Thompson (from St. Louis!). Both were 6'10"+ and quick and smart, and Thompson particularly looked like he was chiseled out of granite. Most of us know how that collapsed after Wacker's knee was wrecked due to the crappy tartan surface and poor lighting at Baylor's court, ending Wacker's career. This around early mid-season, Texas was undefeated, somewhere around 12-0 and top 5, unheard of in Austin.

    The point was that once Lemons got the 'aircraft carriers' he modified his run and gun style that he used early on at Texas (with Johnny 'Junior' Moore and Jim Krivaks at point, and Branyon and Baxter as guards and Goodner at post, none really expected to be NBA bound (funny thing, Moore's "00" jersey hangs as a jersey retired by the Spurs, was all-time leader in assists there when hanging it up)).

    Back to Kaiser Bob and that Alcalde article. Weltlich made a specific point, apparently targeted at Lemons (probably to suck up to Dodds who Lemons sparred with frequently and strongly), something like: "Well, there are some coaches who just go out and get the best players they can recruit, then mold the team's offensive and defensive approach upon those skills. We are going to do it differently. We will have a way to do things, then go out and get the players who match our philosophy."

    I remember thinking to myself "I couldn't imagine DKR telling Worster, Koy, Bertleson, and Bradley, 'Thanks, but no thanks, we run a flip-flop T offense using one feature back at a time; good luck.'"

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  12. AYMan

    AYMan 25+ Posts

    aint happening. fully guaranteed through 2023 thanks to minor league AD perrin.
    it's still a $13m buyout after this year.
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  13. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Just watched parts of the replay of the VCU game. So bad. The last shot was the craziest choice. Shaka wants Coleman to shoot the 3 which may be his (as well as the team's) weakest shot. The shot is made with no time left; so no time to rebound and get a second chance. Bad.

    Finally, VCU shot 28% from the field for the game. That is awful. If the Horns can't beat a team at home that shoots 28%, who can they beat?
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  14. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    where is that 1984 team made up of intramural players???? they would represent us better than this current crop...
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  15. Walking Boss

    Walking Boss 1,000+ Posts

    Painful to watch two well coached teams go at each other in Tennessee at Gonzaga. Especially knowing what the play will probably look like in the drum a little later.
  16. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Rick's Day Glo UT up 73-71 with 1:09 to go.

    73-71, 0:49 to go.

    UT gets defensive rebound, then turnover/foul, Zags make both, 73-73 0:29 to go, DayGlo ball.

    UT's Schofield hits a 3, 76-73 DayGlo 0:28 to go.

    Zags miss 3 pointer, Zag foul, DayGlo rebound, 0:07 to go, DayGlo time out.

    DayGlo misses FT. Zag rebound.

    No. 7 DayGlo beats No. 1 Zags 76-73.

    Good for Rick.
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    Last edited: Dec 9, 2018
  17. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts


    This was all on Bill Powers, with his accomplice Stevie Patterson. How can a longtime, tenured professor in our law school be so ignorant? Those who know the answer, please refrain from posting the answer as I enjoy HornFans, and would not like to see it mired in litigation for years.
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  18. AYMan

    AYMan 25+ Posts

    Sorry, I stand corrected. Perrin only extended the additional year and guaranteed more money. Ultimately it all goes back to Powers, but our two preceeding ADs before CDC didn't help matters.
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  19. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Ranking B12 schools with BB coaches I think would be a significant improvement:
    Schools with coaches I don't think would get much more from the team:
    ISU, OSU, OU
  20. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Remember when Havoc was supposed to be this amazing defensive philosophy that was going to take the big 12 by storm? Turns out its actually the name of our offense because nobody knows where they are supposed to be, or what they are supposed to be doing.
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  21. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    should have had someone with a drone pulling a banner with this headline going over the court today!:puke:
  22. FWHORN

    FWHORN 5,000+ Posts

    In January I predicted only five conference wins, they got 8 so it’s more then I thought when conference play began but just pathetic regardless. Basketball is a mess and it’s hard to argue Shaka should get another year except for the money question.
  23. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    There's a bad joke in here somewhere:

    How many Top 10 recruiting classes does it take to go 16-16 in the Big XII?

  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  25. 22Horn

    22Horn 250+ Posts

    Smart. He needs to be gone now! No progress and simply does not make or know how to coach / make adjustments. Seems lost!

    Coleman....too inconsistent and plays out of control and seems to be helter skelter on offense but that may be due to lack of quality play of others and poor coaching...

    Roach...guessing his poor decisions have cost him and the team. He may be through, maybe he should have already been removed from the roster.
  26. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Nah, I think his poor decisions are a reflection of the teams leadership. Not sure it really cost the team anything other than losing by a few more points than they should have.
  27. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    He IS the team leadership, from the player side. When your Senior leader can't take care of his personal business well enough to even stay eligible, your program is probably a hot mess.
  28. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Agree from a player standpoint, but he takes his cues from the coaching staff. Shaka hasn't been shy about saying it wasn't his decision to suspend Roach and he is looking forward to having him back. That's a lack of accountability indicator to me.
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  29. Walking Boss

    Walking Boss 1,000+ Posts

    There is no accountability, that starts with the head coach who appears to have no idea what he is doing. Smart is not their coach, he is their friend. His “coaching” is just play with more energy.
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Smart is owed, I think, around $12M
    If he does survive, this will be reason #1
    Plus, in addition to paying him that, we would also probably be looking at buy-out of the next guy. It adds up
    Do the BMCs care enough about UT BBall for this?
    Probably not
    Thus, he will be back
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