CDC Wanted Sonny Dykes as Head Coach

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by 1963_Frosh, Dec 31, 2022.

  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    His decline? Sam graduated before his first season. What do you think the record would be without Sam in 2020? Likely 4-6 at best. Sam held the 2020 team together.
     
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  2. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Dumb article. Clickbait much.
     
  3. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    I’ll give Sark 5 seasons. His first year he didn’t have the opportunity to recruit a class, but only recruited 1 guy - Worthy. The rest were Tom’s guys. This year’s frosh was his first class.

    When we get to year 4 or 5 he will have guys who have learned his system from day one. If he is still winning only 8 or 9 games, then give him the boot to his backside and go get a guy with a proven track record and an NC win or two. We don’t need to “settle” for a guy that might be capable, we need to go “take” one who has and can produce.
     
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  4. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    It is hard for most of us HornFans' AD's to accept continual churn without results. Three years is really two, as the first can't be held against the HC. Dykes fell into a team of seniors and the portal and took advantage of that.

    Sark made progress with recruiting and is smart enough to know wins keep the recruiting train going. Give him his five years and then make an assessment.
     
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  5. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    After DKRs last championship wasn't it about four coaches and 30 years before we won another?
     
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  6. rreading

    rreading 100+ Posts

    While I agree with your initial commentary, your concluding statement sounds a lot like Aggie.
     
  7. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    Can anyone name a coach who started off slow, mired in mediocrity for 3-4 years and then finally broke though with 10+ win seasons and/or NC's for a long time?

    It seems like every very successful coach I can remember turned programs around immediately. Just like DKR and Mack Brown did at Texas. Saban, Holtz, Bowden, Paterno, Snyder, Bryant. Maybe a little longer for Mack and UNC and Snyder at KSU, but it was a still dramatic from where they were.

    That's why I have my doubts about Sark. If Texas had won 10 games this year considering the talent I would have hope. But I'm just not seeing the type of turnaround one would expect for a coach to take us to consistent 10 win seasons.
     
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  8. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Nope! I didn't misspell anything.
     
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  9. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 1,000+ Posts

    The odd couple.
     
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  10. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I would be surprised if cdc offered dykes.

    Too bad.
     
  11. longhornlegend

    longhornlegend 1,000+ Posts

    I think Dykes hit lucky for sure. Getting riley as an oc and having Duggan who is very similar to Colt in that he is super accurate and can scramble. Those 2 things are game changers that we dont have on display today.
     
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  12. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    What were the reactions and general consensus around here of TCU hiring Dykes at the time?

    Is this all with the benefit of hindsight?
     
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  13. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Dabo Swinney

    Year 1.....4-3
    Year 2......9-5
    Year 3.....6-7

    Later on, 2 National Championships, 8 Conference Championships.
    161-39 record now at Clemson
     
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  14. Texadelphia

    Texadelphia 1,000+ Posts

    Wonder how this is sitting with Patterson. He obviously left TCU in darn good shape.
     
  15. Walking Boss

    Walking Boss 2,500+ Posts

    I have my doubts about Sarkisian. I think he needs to be the head coach and he can't do that and also being his own oc/play caller. I think it shows in clock management and getting on the officials. He can't do that while he is trying to determine the next play call or next series. (I think Gundy had this problem as well). I think it may bog him down as a play caller. He also seems to be very stubborn with staying with his QB even though it is obvious that a relief pitcher needs to be brought it. Having said that, I think that the divided locker room and institutional train wreck he inherited is not the same situation that Dykes walked into. More importantly, if Sarkisian had Duggan as his QB1 playing like he did this year, we would have had a real chance at being where TCU is right now. That is a big assumption, but Duggan's mobility and accuracy would have kept drives alive and the defense off the field.
     
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  16. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Well said, Boss.
     
  17. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    Yep, didn't think about him, but definitely the exception, not the rule.

    Sark would've played Ewers over Duggan. But yes, with Duggan at QB this team probably would've been in the playoffs.
     
  18. Walking Boss

    Walking Boss 2,500+ Posts

    Duggan was QB2 to start the year, came in and took off after the starter was injured. Dykes clearly had some good fortune there (not unlike Belicheck and Brady to a much lesser degree). If Card hadn't also gotten injured against Bama who knows, maybe we win that game and Tech, confidence abounds and the players have momentum, start playing faster, stronger, and making plays.
     
  19. Texadelphia

    Texadelphia 1,000+ Posts

    Bingo. You nailed it, Boss. This is the biggest area for improvement and most glaring gap to fix. Over the past two seasons there are at least 4-5 games (more?) that could’ve had different outcomes related to this particular topic.

    It’s an ego thing, though. Can Sark make the switch? I sure hope so. Mack had to do something related to his ego when he decided to let Vince be Vince and not force him into something he wasn’t, and that worked out pretty well.
     
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  20. BLucky

    BLucky 250+ Posts

    Isn't this issue about OC one of the things everyone is saying about jimbo?
     
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