Charlie Strong

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by LonghornDave, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. LonghornDave

    LonghornDave 1,000+ Posts

    Some speculation he is a candidate for Mississippi job. How would that affect his buyout?
     
  2. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    I dont believe Ol Miss is in the market to hire a loser like Strong. Strong's Texas performance stank would be hard to overcome in an interview.
     
  3. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    How about a twofer? Strong & his "benefactor" Billy Powers?

    Over the years, the Ole Miss administration has made some horrendous decisions, but even they aren't that dumb
     
  4. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Can you imagine sitting in that interview along with a representative from Guinness Book of World Records, who is counting the number of times Strong says, "We just have to get better"?
     
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  5. LonghornDave

    LonghornDave 1,000+ Posts

    I really was pulling for Strong but I believe he was ill suited for the Texas job. The south east is clearly his territory. I suspect there is an element of Mississippi that is wanting to clean house to avoid further NCAA sanctions and Charlie has that Tough Love shtick down pat.
     
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  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    You guys know Charlie already has a job, right?
     
  7. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The mighty $EC taking a failed Big XII coach? The $EC office would block that.
     
  8. LonghornDave

    LonghornDave 1,000+ Posts

    Yes but I think he is making 500k a year with balloon payments at the end to screw UT on the buyout....
     
  9. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah, so why would the structure of his current contract lead him to want to ditch USF for Ole Miss? He will make the same money either way (whether we pay hime or Ole Miss does), and Charlie is a Florida guy. And he's a loyal guy. I don't think it is in Charlie's character to jump ship on a job he just started.
     
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  10. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    I got wore out hearing CS say that the very FIRST time he said it...
     
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  11. LonghornDave

    LonghornDave 1,000+ Posts

    Mississippi > USF
     
  12. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    And
    Texas>Louisville
    But he may have some less than fond memories of the last time he applied that logic to a job offer.
     
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  13. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    I sure do wish him the best regardless. I'm betting he stays at USF for a bit.
     
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  14. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    If they run the table like many are saying they can do he might bail and the Florida job may be open as well at the end of the year also
     
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  15. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    As a member of The Florida Foundation for over thirty years, and having been given a membership in the Alumni Association, not no but HELL NO! I certainly don't believe that McElwain is the answer, but I now that Strong isn't the answer to even being coordinator.
     
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  16. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    A cringe worthy classic of the same magnitude as, "It scares you to death."
    I'm not sure which was worse.
     
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  17. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    He wasn't able to get it done here, so I don't believe he could get it done at another P5 program. USF is probably more his speed.
     
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  18. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Well, there is a recipe for a Texas cake:

    http://tastesbetterfromscratch.com/the-best-texas-sheet-cake/

    ... and one for a Mississippi cake:

    http://tastesbetterfromscratch.com/mississippi-mud-cake/

    ...but I couldn't find any recipe for a Florida cake.

    Since he was all about "baking the cake, just need to put the icing on top" he's going to have somewhat of a time in Florida without a cake recipe. Mississippi has a recipe waiting for him.

    Curiously, the Texas cake recipe I found (linked above ) is a "Texas sheet cake", take out a couple of "ee's" and replace them with an "i" and that's about what kind of cake he baked in Texas.
     
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  19. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

    Nothing's impossible... I mean, _iaz even got a job after Texas. :p

    Mack was worse because
    a) his being scared to death of everything was something we were laughed at nationally for.
    b) we got to hear how scared he was for years. Years.

    This.
     
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  20. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    UT screwed itself when it decided to make an unproven coach one of five highest paid coaches in college football giving him $5 million a year guaranteed for years. It is not Charlie's fault he said yes to UT's dumb offer. I do not fault him or USF for responding to it accordingly.
     
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  21. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    77,

    Thank you. The entire Strong saga falls at the feet of Powers and Peterson and their combined stupidity and inability to discern talent, understand the coaching market, and NEVER knowing what the market price and terms for coaches was.

    Again, this is egregious and wreaks of gross negligence, from which I believe The University should have sought financial relief.
     
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  22. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    As they say:

    "If you can, do. If you can't, teach. If you can't teach, administrate."
     
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  23. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Places like Mississippi and Baylor were places that needed a guy like him.
     
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  24. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Baylor and Ol Miss will never need an incompetent boob like Strong. Unless the reference for Strong to go to Ol Miss and Baylor is so he may destroy their college football future.
     
  25. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    If he was in Waco, Baylor would be back to attendance levels in the 10-15,000 level. While it would be poetic justice for the BMD and BOR to have to reach in their pockets to pay for that new stadium, they would deny that just as they deny any knowledge of what was going on.

    If he was in Oxford, the majority of the students would leave on weekends thus adding to Strong's legacy yet another title as "the man that killed The Grove".
     
  26. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    Rod Babers

     
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  27. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Strong was a winner at Louisville, not at Texas. There were myriad reasons he was not successful here. A couple of bad coaching hires, less talent than the public perceived when he arrived. We all reach a point where dealing with the distractions, pressures and competition leaves us with inadequate resources to excel. Charlie had to be fired because he lacked the energy, focus and applied intelligence of to deal with everything you have to deal with at Texas. Tom Herman seems perfect for the job ... seemingly limitless personal energy along with ability and desire to bring new resources to bear.

    Charlie has some admirable virtues and great ability to connect with young people. He did some commendable things at Texas. I think he needs to excel where he is though, before he gets something like an SEC job.
     
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  28. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Agreed with Crockett. He needs to set up his own "brand" at USF before he moves on to something bigger. He brought his sideways, "we've just got to get better," Shawn Watson, core values stuff to Texas and that turned out miserably. Herman wasted no time in trying to bring culture to UH, and although he lost games to teams with seemingly less prestige, at least you can recognize his teams' style.
     
  29. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    That's true but it's more than that. I don't think he had the attention to detail to use all the tools he had at his disposal here, or to address the shortcomings that would acceptable at Louisville but not at Texas. At a lower-tier school, for example, throwing some fatheads on the wall might be fine. That doesn't work when you're recruiting against Alabama, A&M, and other top programs. The lack of attention to detail shows up a lot more clearly at that level, and it makes you look sloppy and unprepared.
     
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  30. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    Charlie might be a "good ball coach" which is enough at some places but you don't put "good middle management" in the CEO suite at Texas
     
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