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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Now all of the Uighurs imprisoned without a trial will not be able to glimpse at the NBA camps from the slave factory windows as they cobble together NBA players shoes

     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is a well-sourced article from Australian think tank laying out the global companies using slave labor in China
    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uygh...HINvZ8c4yZjyVdjaeaF8I0qrTj2b8FygTWNIWe5Yh874L
    The numbers that show are source footnotes, see the article for whole story

    The Chinese government has facilitated the mass transfer of Uyghur and other ethnic minority1 citizens from the far west region of Xinjiang to factories across the country. Under conditions that strongly suggest forced labour, Uyghurs are working in factories that are in the supply chains of at least 83 well-known global brands in the technology, clothing and automotive sectors, including Apple, BMW, Gap, Huawei, Nike, Samsung, Sony and Volkswagen.

    This report estimates that more than 80,000 Uyghurs were transferred out of Xinjiang to work in factories across China between 2017 and 2019, and some of them were sent directly from detention camps.2 The estimated figure is conservative and the actual figure is likely to be far higher. In factories far away from home, they typically live in segregated dormitories,3 undergo organised Mandarin and ideological training outside working hours,4 are subject to constant surveillance, and are forbidden from participating in religious observances.5 Numerous sources, including government documents, show that transferred workers are assigned minders and have limited freedom of movement.
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    This report examines three case studies in which Uyghur workers appear to be employed under forced labour conditions by factories in China that supply major global brands. In the first case study, a factory in eastern China that manufactures shoes for US company Nike is equipped with watchtowers, barbed-wire fences and police guard boxes. The Uyghur workers, unlike their Han counterparts, are reportedly unable to go home for holidays (see page 8). In the second case study of another eastern province factory claiming to supply sportswear multinationals Adidas and Fila, evidence suggests that Uyghur workers were transferred directly from one of Xinjiang’s ‘re-education camps’ (see page 18). In the third case study, we identify several Chinese factories making components for Apple or their suppliers using Uyghur labour. Political indoctrination is a key part of their job assignments (see page 21).
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  4. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    Any idea what these seeds are? That might be the strangest thing I've ever heard of. Unless it's some version of kudzu or bamboo. Or maybe a giant beanstalk with a bunch of Chinese giants somewhere in the clouds waiting to come down and reek havoc.
     
  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    There will be people who get the seeds and plant them. So we will know what they are. Hopefully it is such a small number it will not be harmful. But some seeds will get planted.
    It is actually scary and perplexing to think that the CCP came up with this and went to the trouble of getting thousands of Americans' addresses and mailed the seeds.
    This is not some prank.
     
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Lebron James wont like this either

     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    A massive Chinese fishing fleet is trawling off the Galapagos Islands, pulling in everything

     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The sent seeds to Texas as well
    Be on the lookout for giant beanstalks
     
  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    The world should press China for their mistreatment of minorities in their own country. But China doesn't really scare me. They are trying the same things that the USSR did. Central planning gives them a mirage of progress and movement. But it ultimately hampers their ability to produce, invest, and develop the right things. They are stagnating and will more over time.

    Best thing to do is increase freedom in the US and play fair with everyone. That will be the best strategy long term for everyone.
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    But the Soviets never had the largest consumer block in the world while China does. It's a problem.
     
  12. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Actually the EU does not China.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Now China has bought off the ACLU

     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    lol

     
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  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    No one saw that ^ coming
     
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  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    The local government wants to take over all the drug pushing the intelligence community has been doing for decades.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  19. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Mona if that means what I take it for, I think it’s a brilliant comment!
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    On August 19, 1966 - Chinese students launched a fight for "social justice" to fight for the rights of the oppressed in China. They believed that the ‘patriarchal system’ in China had been created by the 1% and held down women, minorities, and the working class.

    The students cried out for a revolution and change, and consequentially launched the infamous Chinese Cultural Revolution. Students put a red band around their arm to stand in solidarity with the oppressed and called for a change on old ideas that they called "the FOUR OLDS."

    The Four Olds were: Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Ideas. The movement was supported by the Chinese media. Mass demonstrations and looting by the students ensued. Statues were torn down

    Some irreplaceable Chinese architecture was destroyed. Classical literature and Chinese paintings were torn apart and burned. Temples were desecrated. The Cemetery of Confucius was attacked. The corpse of the 76th-generation Duke Yansheng was removed from its grave and hung from a tree.

    Wealthy homes were attacked and destroyed. Many families’ long-kept genealogy books were burned to ashes. All of history, in short, was to be removed and replaced.

    This was the central meaning of Cultural Revolution: That China was going to destroy every trace of its bourgeois (privileged) past and replace it with a new culture built on the principles of Maoism and Marxism

    If this is what you want, move to China

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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    More fun from Wuhan

     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  25. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    I have a better idea, tell them we are going to cut off all their students from entering the United States to attend Universities here if they try to hold the world hostage. Then we can create a blockade for all their ships. Lets see how they like it when we flex our muscle. Xi needs to realize we have ways of making them suffer. We can turn their 1.6 billion population into 6 million really easy.

    Between Japan, India, Vietnam, Australia, and Us we can drop a big hammer on them. It would not be hard to turn China into a democracy by killing all the commies for mommy.
     
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  26. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    I am trying to vision Biden standing up to China,, Nope, can’t see it.
     
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  27. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I am trying to envision Biden finding China on a map. Nope, can't see it.
     
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  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    We can make them suffer, but we don't have any resolve and aren't willing to take some hits in the process. Many stupid people in the US are quick to buy the "racism" narrative, which China has figured out.

    Furthermore, our coaonsumers aren't willing to pay higher prices, and our large businesses aren't willing to pay the higher wages they'd have to fork out to disentangle from our interdependence on China. It's sad, because it would be much easier for us to disentangle than it would be for them. It's pretty easy to find find cheap labor. They'll never find a consumer market like the United States. The EU is the closest equivalent, but it's not particularly favorable to China either. However, it would be a short-term adjustment for us. Some businesses would lose, and consumers would pay more for some time. We'd have to accept that.
     
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  29. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    Maybe I'm just old but that doesn't even look fun......
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2020
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If you were Republican, someone would be calling you a racist for that
     
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