Comey and Mueller

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Horowitz worked on the Barney Frank Campaign
    He donated to Sen Michael Bennet, a Dem who is running against Trump.
    His wife is a former Dem campaign official and activist, as well as a former DC producer for CNN. She also contributed to the Obama Campaign. She also served as a press aide to Dem Michael Dukakis during his presidential bid
     
  3. Joe Fan

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    Yet more Page-Strzok texts released -- this is from Dec 2015

    ‘You get all our oconus lures approved? ;)

    As the FBI is supposed to be prohibited from spying on a major political party’s candidate for the presidency, they needed to find an alternative. Here, Page-Strzok sought to “manufacture a foreign counterintelligence (FCI) “threat” that could then be “imported” back into the United States.”

    Chris Farrell, a former counterintelligence case officer writes:

    Plausible deniability, the Holy Grail of covert activities, was in reach for the plotters if they could develop an FCI operation outside the continental United States (OCONUS) involving FBI confidential human sources (Halper, Mifsud, others?) that would act as “lures” (intelligence jargon associated with double agent operations) to ensnare Trump associates.

    We have evidence of these machinations from December 2015 when FBI lawyer Lisa Page texts to her boyfriend, the now infamous FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok, “You get all our oconus lures approved? ;).”

    The coup plot failed, but the chief coup conspirators are free, crisscrossing the country on book tours and appearing as paid contributors to CNN and MSNBC.
    Durham Needs to Bring Indictments
     
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  4. Joe Fan

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    Justice IG Horowitz had 104 criminal or administrative investigations of alleged misconduct related to FBI employees open as of Sept. 30, according to new OIG report.
    The criminal investigations involve "serious allegations of official misconduct."
     
  5. Joe Fan

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    Are leftists still maintaining this was not "spying on the Trump campaign?"

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  6. Joe Fan

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    More Halper

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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    The IG report hits the FBI hard but some of Horowitz's conclusions are being challenged by Durham.
     
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  9. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    Another self reporting report which hurts the justice department. No different than the Comey press conference. Yes, we broke the law but it was warranted because we know better than you.

    Sickening. Our country is in chaos. We need a constitutional convention or a civil war.
     
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  10. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    “The Government one day will be corrupt and filled with liars, and the People will flock to the one that tells the truth.”

    Thomas Jefferson

    Amazing how wise our founding father were.
     
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  11. Joe Fan

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    There was also a huge release of Afghanistan Papers. Buried deep within those is General Flynn telling government interviewers that everyone was lying about the war. Not so coincidentally, his life was chosen for ruin.

    Flynn also said in a public hearing that he wanted to audit the intelligence community. They understood this correctly as the first shot fired in a war against the administrative state. He was fired by the Obama Admin shortly thereafter. Since then, his life has been a living hell.

    The Guardian: Describing a “positivity bias” in reporting back to DC, Flynn concluded the “rosy picture” being painted across the board from Afghanistan was as corrupt as the theft ... and condemned a “lack of courage in senior government officials to tell the truth.” And you know how well Obama people handled criticism. US lies and deception spelled out in Afghanistan papers' shocking detail

    Gen. Flynn --

    Commanders and policymakers, on the spectrum of news, they want always to be good news. Operational commanders, state dept policymakers and Dept of Defense are going to be inherently rosy in their assessments. They will be unaccepting of hard-hitting intelligence. [They all say] we are doing a great job. Really? So if we are doing a great job, why does it feel like we are losing?

    There is corruption in reporting ... That also includes from the State Dept. There is no way that over the years ... that we can say things are wonderful. Every measurable activity is failing. So when you look at Afghanistan, every single measurable activity is failing."
     
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  12. Joe Fan

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    John Durham on the IG Report. pretty unusual for him to make any public statement about anything. Shows that he has significant disagreement with Horowitz conclusions

    “I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department.

    Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.

    Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham
     
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  13. Joe Fan

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    Likewise Bill Barr --

    “Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

    The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory...."

    Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
     
  14. Joe Fan

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    This entire whole thing started with the Carter Page FISA warrant application, which was bogus. Now here they are 3 years later saying "whoops, our bad, moving on"

     
  15. Joe Fan

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    Here is some more commentary from General Flynn
    In context, it is easy to see why they went out of their way to get rid of this guy

    The thread has more, if interested

     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    One more

    “Make sure the war was as expensive in Iraq”

     
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  17. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Great stuff @Joe Fan.

    So my wise *** comments during "testimony" a couple weeks ago were fairly accurate. This is all because "Diplomats" are having their gravy trains questioned by Trump. Not only hurt feelings but maybe hurt pocketbooks, too.
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I think the actual elected politicians themselves are the biggest hogs at the trough
    But, agree, it does seem to get spread around
     
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  19. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    I was just referring to those testifying recently. Career diplomats who were butthurt. That is supposedly where the "whistleblower" report came from, a career intelligence person.
     
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  20. Joe Fan

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    Barr says the Durham Investigation will go into Spring/early Summer 2020.
    Too bad but at least it will be before the next election.
     
  21. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    I can hear the CNN/MSNBC pundits crying already that they are timing it to come out right before the election since, seemingly, it will be damaging to the Dems.
     
  22. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    My opinion of Michael Flynn just went through the roof. He spoke truth to power and suffered for it. Seems like a very honorable person.
     
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  23. Joe Fan

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  25. Joe Fan

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    The Carter Page FISA renewal applications contained a number of factual representations that were inaccurate, incomplete, or unsupported by appropriate documentation, based upon information in the FBI's possession at the time the applications were filed.

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  27. Joe Fan

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    The crack has been lying for a long time
    Think she will apologize? Admit error? Maybe be a victim of cancel culture?

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  28. Joe Fan

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    We will have to wait and see if anyone gets rung up for breaking the laws and rules
    One thing we know, if their names were Manafort or Stone they would be doing life in prison for this stuff

     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts



    What exactly was that mission?
     
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