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Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Musburger1, Jun 9, 2017.
Barr says it here - what were the doing after the election?
Another point about the Page FISA warrant is that the Court was led to believe Steele's sources were from British intelligence.
They were not
The IG missed this part
Andrew McCabe “apologized” for lying to FBI about the WSJ leak.
He will will face zero consequences for this lying.
What do you think would happen to you if you did the same (assuming you are not a connected, big-money Dem donor)?
Somewhere Mike Flynn let out a long, slow sigh
McCabe works for CNN, right? First thing, is never turn on CNN or visit there website or anything else that brings them revenue.
It feels like every day, I become more convinced that a big chunk of the US National Security apparatus prefers America's enemies to Americans themselves
Nothing Lisa Page said in that tweet was wrong or anti-America.
Other than showing her disapproval of the decision, I agree.
As long as we keep in mind that the Iran she is talking about is a murderous regime and not a normal civilized country. There are many Iranians thanking Trump. Soliemani killed many Iranians.
I am guessing Lisa's mother fled when they deposed the Shah
Of course, she mention her family fleeing from there. She is more concerned about violence escalation. I think that is wise.
George Papadopoulos says --
As the Durham probe ramps up, it will be clear that I was being spied on because I was a senior consultant putting together this deal between 2013-2016.
Read my pieces in the Israeli media between those years.
More wise than letting a murderous thug continue to kill including Americans?
Horn, did you read her tweet? She started with "good riddance" referring to the death of Suleimanni. She then reflects on potential responses from Iran and hopes there is no further violence. How can you not agree with that?
My point is the Iran she talks about, a 5000year old culture , ceased to exist in 1979 which is probably when her mother left but which is the Iran Lisa thinks she knows.
Not the murderous regime of last 50 years. She says Iran isn't an irrational actor.
I most certainly do not agree with that. Do you ?
Iran is an irrational actor. They sponsor terrorism all over the world. I lose faith in our national security apparatus daily knowing people like Lisa Page are part of it.
Iran is very rational and calculating. I don't see how that is in question. They are not good, but they are not crazy. That should be obvious by how carefully they have chosen their actions against the US and how cleverly they played the situation in Iraq since 2003.
The Persian culture did not end in 1979. That is preposterous. The government doesn't equal the culture. Even the Islamic radicals in charge of Iran see themselves as a continuation of the ancient Persian culture. We are talking about their perception of themselves not whether we in the US like them or not.
The Shah from 1953-1979 was murderous as well. Not as murderous as the Ayatollahs but still not good.
Don't let the conflict cloud your judgment.
Their leaders routinely lead chants of “death to America.” I’ll just disagree with you. Planning any vacations there soon?
Do you have reading comprehension problems? When did I ever say I like Iran? I just said they aren't irrational. They are plenty bad.
You stated nothing in her tweet was wrong. In her tweet, she said Iran was not irrational. I simply disagree. Leaders chanting “death to America’ is irrational in my view. Please feel free to state your case where it is wrong, especially from our FBI.
Leaders killing their own seems irrational to most rational people.
I may not agree that American needs to die, but their views are based on irrationality. They may even be based on error without being irrational.
Leaders killing their own? Who is Iran killing?
Who is Iran killing? Did you forget the thousands of protesters arrested tortured with some killed in Dec 2018? Look up Sadeq Larajani
The protestors torture and death comes on top of hundreds killed by Iranian govt last 10 years.
A quick search should provide you with plenty of credible sources . Iran is not a rational civilized cultured regime.
I will stand by my comment about Iran being rational.
But you do a good job of exposing their evil. It doesn't take irrationality to be evil. Evil is usually cold and calculating. I think that is the case with the Iranian government.
Most of this NYT article seems frantically written. Nonetheless the main factoid they try to bury beneath the propaganda is that the FBI is looking at Comey and his boyfriend Richman for illegally leaking classified information to the NYT and WAPO.
Justice Dept. Investigating Years-Old Leaks and Appears Focused on Comey
Last Friday, National Security Council senior director for European and Russian affairs, Andrew Peek, was physically escorted from the White House grounds and is currently under a security investigation. He came from State, so it looks like he was another Deep State mole who got caught trying to access something he should not have. His career tracked with former US General John Allen who was one of Hillary's generals and even spoke at the DNC convention. He was quite possibly connected to Adam Schiff too as at the same time of this action, Schiff was complaining about not getting the same levels of documents from the NSA he used to get.
Trump Loses Another Russia Adviser, Adding to NSC Turnover
Since the FISA court declared today that at least two of the four Carter Page spy warrants were illegal and there was "insufficient predication to establish probable cause," here are are some of Schiff's claims from his 2018 Memo
Even the anti-truth squad at the NYT is finally admitting the Page FISA warrant was bad - something I wrote in here over 2 years ago
Justice Dept. Says Facts Did Not Justify Continued Wiretap of Trump Aide
Jeebues, Fox News is losing it. I had no clue Herridge had gone to CBS News. I can hardly stand watching ANY news these days except OAN occasionally.