Coronavirus

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Clean, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    But how do they prove that it was the vaccine that caused their infertility? The link from "this was only approved for emergency use" to "not studied enough to prove that it doesn't cause infertility" is the same type of narrative that Andrew Wakefield wove with his autism fearmongering.

    Using his methodology, we could potentially find infertile people who got the vaccine and use that as our correlation. It would be flawed, to say the least, but that's enough for a subpopulation to buy the t-shirts and listen to Joe Rogan podcasts about it.
     
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  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Compare new cases against the background rate. It’s what they did regarding the rare blood clot condition. Also, you look at the subtype of the disease. Often, the problem is a different subtype than typical. Again, that was the case for the rare blood clot.
     
  3. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    About as statistically likely to be stuck by lightening.
     
  4. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    My 22 year old makes her own decisions. She does not like pharmaceuticals or anything that is not natural. It’s who she is and she is healthy. It is a tough decision for a parent with under age kids.

    I personally would not force it unless they had underlying issues. That’s just me though.
     
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  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Agree. Mine all pestered me to get them scheduled. I don't look down on people not getting it. I've got a MT working for me not wanting it. She's smart and has done her research. Live free!
     
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  6. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    Wait...NOW we have to worry about coming out of a jab looking like Michael Jackson?

    Oh wait...you meant lightning. Although for some, even THAT risk as relates to fertility is enough to pass on a 'vaccine' for an illness so problematic for some that they needed a test to know they ever even had it...
     
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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    You'll have to excuse him, ma'am. He's from Oklahoma. :ousucks:
     
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  8. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    That is a serious concern. I wouldn't let her get the vaccine.
     
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  9. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    There is zero evidence that the COVID virus itself causes infertility, and there's been plenty of time to notice those kind of effects.

    As for the vaccine, there is postsurveillance data that hasnt raised any red flags so far. Is it proof, no it's not but it's still something.

    I don't know why you bother though, because it's obvious that you don't care what the science says.

    I'll tell you what -- in 5 years I'm going to bump this thread and when there's no data showing infertility I expect you'll make an idiotic claim like big pharma is hiding all the infertility cases caused by the vaccine.

    On the other hand, if there is data showing infertility then I'll admit that I was wrong.
     
  10. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    No you won't...just like you won't admit you lost your *** on $GME and you refuse to sponsor.

    And you won't bump this thread in five years because in five years, people will be bitching about the next overblown health fear giving rise to efforts to destroy an economy...
     
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  11. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Never met a surgeon or any doctor with a young family who has time to opine on a message board for free. Well until now.
     
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  12. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    LOL wow you are a glutton for punishment aren't you? Do you really want to see my receipts from GME? Write me a 500 word essay on how much you are dying to see the transaction receipt on it and I'll consider posting it.
     
  13. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    not sure I agree with that. Not enough time to deny nor notice all the effects, simple truth.
     
  14. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    I'm talking about the COVID virus itself, not the vaccine.
     
  15. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Coronavirus Cases:
    151,234,158
    view by country
    Deaths:
    3,182,057

    Unless you are talking about fertilizing the ground, there is some evidence.
     
  16. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    Aint that the truth...
     
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  17. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    I don't run a multibillion dollar company or have 50,000 employees like you do. Your subordinates should be asking you why you are hanging out on the internet all day instead of running the company like you're supposed to.
     
  18. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    Your goalpost is moving again.

    Infertility in the context of this thread is INDEED about the vaccine.
     
  19. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    You need to read my previous post again.
     
  20. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    My job entails lots of time on an airplane and I have no young children. Planes have internet capability these days, but no phone calls can occur. I’ve asked HIC to get this corrected.
     
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  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  22. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    You mean the one where you expressly stated:
    "As for the vaccine, there is postsurveillance data that hasnt raised any red flags so far. Is it proof, no it's not but it's still something."

    That post?

    The entire discussion about infertility has NEVER surrounded simple contraction of the sniffles. It was ALWAYS about side effects of the effing 'vaccine.

    Not a surprise that would try to derail in some other direction though...you demonstrate time and again that you wouldn't know a straight answer if it came out of a bottle into a syringe and jabbed you in your ***...
     
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  23. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Just one sample. If anyone should suffer long term side effects from rona it would be my son. He was born with a congenital heart defect nicknamed "total veins". He really shouldn't be alive but he's 23 and kicking because the doctors invented a new procedure to fix what he has. His "plumbing" is misrouted all over his body and his respiratory system will never be the same as any other "normal" human.

    With that said, he had rona about 8 months ago and suffers zero side effects. His cardiologist has performed every possible test on him including MRI's and said everything about him is the same as before rona. Blood flow, heart wall thickness, lung capacity, etc.

    The media needs to stop fear mongering "long term effects" because they have no idea if there will be any. They just like getting people riled up for click bait using interviews from doctors who have no idea what will happen either. We can't live in a country where every action is dictated by someone else's fear of what might happen.
     
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  24. humahuma

    humahuma 500+ Posts

    The last two restaurants I have been to I haven’t worn a mask. The last one, I didn’t see anyone wearing a mask, even the health inspector checking food temperature.
     
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  25. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I was in Philadelphia this week. Was like last summer in Nashville. Masks everywhere and stupid policies. Nobody can sit at the bar, but they have people sitting at high tops 6 feet away, but 3 feet apart sideways. Then the homeless lining the airport walkway. It’s time to split the country. Liberals are idiots.
     
  26. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I’m sitting in the bar at the Marriott PHL Airport. I have been commuting here since March. Today is the first day I’ve seen seating at the bar, and I was here a few nights ago.

    I was in Fort Worth last weekend. Every place still says mask required but I saw no enforcement.
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    hic
    Is it a pain to have to commute like that to get to your job or is it routine for you?
     
  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Shawnee Oklahoma for softball. Zero masks and zero f’s. The wife said I looked like a republican going into Dollar Tree to get some reading glasses without a mask on. :)
     
  29. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    That’s funny. My wife buys my readers at Dollar. I hate’m cause in a week they are so scratched they are worthless. And what are f’s?
     
  30. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Total pain in the ***, and I know people who spend their entire careers doing it. 2 months in to my 3 months of commuting, and I'm beyond sick of it.
     

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