Coronavirus

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  1. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Unfiltered, of course.
     
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  2. Chop

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  3. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts



    They act like this is a gotcha. But our heath outcomes don't rank the same way. We are better and worse than other countries. Most if which has to do with other health factors completely unrelated to vaxx numbers.
     
  4. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I would agree to some extent. I would bet our mortality figures are worse than Russia's.
     
  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Since many Dem run school districts are still insisting on remote learning is Aok for kids why the snit over Sotameyer attending SCOTUS sessions remotely?
     
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  6. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    The Plan to Tag Us for the New World Order Slave System

    Analysis by Dr. Joseph MercolaFact Checked




    STORY AT-A-GLANCE

    ·Dozens of peer-reviewed studies show that when COVID-19 is treated within the first few days of symptom onset, there’s an 85% reduction in hospitalization and death

    ·With Omicron, we have been gifted a best-case scenario. The highly contagious virus can rip through the population, causing only mild cold symptoms, thus producing herd immunity without the risk of mass casualties

    ·Two months before the rollout of the COVID shots, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration was aware that they could cause serious problems, including heart attacks, strokes, myocarditis, blood clots, neurological problems and more, yet they pushed them anyway

    ·Dr. Vladimir Zelenko believes SARS-CoV-2 is a bioweapon. Patents spanning two decades support this view. Those who created the weapon also investigated and identified antidotes, which includes the zinc ionophore hydroxychloroquine

    ·The antidote to COVID was intentionally suppressed to encourage people to get the COVID jab, which Zelenko believes is a tool to tag people for the New World Order slave system

    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, whom I’ve interviewed twice previously, was among the first U.S. physicians to develop an early treatment program for the novel SARS-CoV-2 infection. He popularized the use of hydroxychloroquine and zinc, and when hydroxychloroquine became increasingly difficult to obtain, he was also among the first to identify quercetin as a viable alternative.

    When the pandemic started, Zelenko was practicing in New York. He has since moved to Florida, where he’s been giving interviews for several hours a day, trying to spread the word about early treatment and prevention. As noted by Zelenko:

    “It's a very treatable infection — or should I say bioweapon? — if done within the first few days, because COVID is two diseases. It's the infectious stage of the virus, and then a week later, you have the pathogenic inflammatory reaction that does all the damage to the lungs and causes blood clots.

    So, it's all about timing. And the data is very clear. There are dozens of peer-reviewed studies that prove if you treat COVID within the first few days, you have an 85% reduction in hospitalization and death. It's a no-brainer. You could have saved 700,000 people from going to the hospital out of 800,000.”

    While licensed to practice medicine in Florida, Zelenko now spends most of his time educating the public and other doctors. He’s also available via telemedicine, but his passion has become researching and developing simple, natural approaches to complex health problems — including his own.
     
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  7. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Omicron Is Unstoppable, But Not To Be Feared

    Getting back to the issue of COVID, over the past two years, the SARS-CoV-2 infection has gone through a number of changes. Omicron, for example, is far more contagious, but has far less severe symptoms. As noted by Zelenko:

    “Omicron is unstoppable. It's more infectious than measles. Everyone's going to get it. Sorry, but that's the case. However, it seems to attack only the upper airway in most cases, and there are very few deaths. It’s very responsive to treatment as well, so there's no reason to be afraid of it.”

    In fact, we appear to have been gifted a best-case scenario, in which a highly contagious virus will rip through the population, causing only mild cold symptoms, thus producing herd immunity without the risk of mass casualties. “When two-thirds of the population gets through it, it essentially shuts down the pandemic,” Zelenko says.

    Vaccinating During a Pandemic Breeds Variants

    In the interview, Zelenko explains how the many variants we’ve seen have probably been a result of the mass “vaccination” campaign.

    Three respected immunologists, Dr. Luc Montagnier (who won the Nobel Prize in 2008 for his discovery of the HIV virus), Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, the most published immunologist in history, and Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, a top immunologist in The Netherlands, have all warned that when you mass vaccinate in the middle of an active outbreak, you cause variants to emerge.

    “You exert evolutionary pressure and breed more varying viruses,” Zelenko says. “Now, there are two or three possibilities. One could be that it was unintentional. Good, well-meaning people developed what they thought would help — a vaccine. However, giving it to people during a pandemic has been an absolute failure. ‘Oops, we're sorry.’ That's one possibility.

    The other possibility is that whoever has orchestrated this knows exactly what they're doing, and they are doing it on purpose to maintain the new variants and the consequences of that, which is essentially a psyop [to cause] a global psychosis due to fear, lockdowns and wearing a face diaper.

    There's one more possibility. There's no dispute; everyone who knows the facts and has studied the issue knows that COVID-19 is a weapon made in a laboratory. Gain-of-function research is nothing more than making a weapon of mass destruction and genocide, and there's a patent trail 20 years long that documents the different stages of development of this weapon.

    And here's my supposition. I have no evidence of this, but I could say the following: If I could make the original virus, I could make variants. It's very easy. You just change a few sequences of the code that goes with the spike protein. You change its three-dimensional shape, and if you do it enough, eliminate existing antibodies.

    So again, I don't have evidence for that, but I do have evidence that [SARS-CoV-2] is an artificially-made bioweapon. So why wouldn't it be possible to make variants the same way? I think it's kind of a combination, multifactorial cause of variants — the natural God factor, the evolutionary pressure exerted by vaccinating people during an active pandemic, and then just outright making them.”

    Antidotes to the Bioweapon Were Developed Beforehand

    Zelenko goes on to recount a relatively recent realization. Back in March 2020, he saw a MedCram video, episode 34,1 in which Dr. Roger Seheult explained some of the principles that he then ended up building his COVID protocol on. Seheult specifically quoted a paper that explained the functioning of zinc ionophores.

    That mechanism is what Zelenko relied upon when developing his own protocol. However, he didn’t realize until December 2021 that the author of that central paper was Dr. Ralph Baric. Why does that matter? Zelenko explains:

    “In 1999, Ralph Baric, funded by the U.S. government, at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, figured out how to take an animal virus and have it be able to infect other species, different animals, in other words, cross-species infection.

    In 2015, the same Dr. Ralph Baric, and Dr. Zhengli [at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China], funded by the National Institutes of Health, figured out how to make a corona bat virus infect human beings, and augmented its lethality to human lives. That was in 2015. But in 2010, Baric published that paper that I'm referring to.

    So, the development of the weapon happened in stages, but before it was unleashed onto the human population, or the development of it being able to infect human beings, an antidote was made. Research paid for by the government was published.

    The same people that made the bomb, let's say, also created the antidote to diffuse the bomb. And then, when the pandemic arrived, doctors like myself, out of necessity, came up with creative solutions, based — in my case, unknowingly — on this work. And immediately, that information was marginalized and suppressed, and doctors were deplatformed for advocating for it.

    So, the government who made the bomb also knew about the solution. And the reason why is they didn't want to die. The stakeholders here don't want their families to die. But for you and for me, they have a different agenda. So, they had that information.

    I have knowledge that the Google executives are all taking hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin for prophylaxis, as is half of Congress. And so, the people that have orchestrated this knew the answer, and use it for themselves. Even doctors know the answer for themselves.

    They prescribe [these drugs] for themselves, or they call me. But when patients come, they say there's no treatment, go home, take Tylenol. So, this is mass murder.”
     
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  8. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    The COVID Jabs — Another Crime Against Humanity

    In addition to killing untold numbers of people by denying and suppressing early treatment options, governments around the world are also killing people with the COVID jabs. A year into the aggressive campaign to inject as many people as possible, it’s likely the shots have killed more people than have died from the infection. It’s very difficult to tell, unfortunately, because the data are so seriously manipulated.

    In 2015, Bill Gates said that the world population needs to be reduced by 15% through the use of vaccines because of global warming. The same Bill Gates in 2020 said 7 billion people must be vaccinated. Why would I take a vaccine for my health from someone who's advocating the use of vaccines to reduce the world population? ~ Dr. Vladimir Zelenko

    Zelenko estimates somewhere between 500,000 to 1 million Americans have been killed by the shots to date. Disturbingly, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration was aware that the shots could have serious consequences, yet they pushed them anyway. What’s more, they refuse to address the mindboggling number of adverse events reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). The safety signal couldn’t possibly be clearer.

    “In October, 2020, two months before the vaccine rollout, there was an internal presentation in the FDA to its scientists, and on slide 16 of that presentation, there was a list of side effects: death, heart attack, stroke, blood clots, horrific neurological diseases, myocarditis and many, many more,” Zelenko says.

    “Now keep in mind, this is two months prior to the rollout. After the vaccines were rolled out, and a few months into it, when the VAERS database started showing the side effects that people were experiencing, there's a 100% correlation with what that slide said would happen, and what actually happened to human beings.

    That is premeditated mass murder. FDA knew exactly what it was doing. They knew exactly the side effects, and they released it anyway ...”

    What’s the Real Agenda?

    Why would the FDA behave this way? Why aren’t they safeguarding public health from a clearly lethal treatment? And on the other hand, why aren’t they allowing doctors to help people with early treatment? Zelenko explains:

    “In the mid-‘90s, it became obvious that the American economy was doomed. The Medicare and Social Security systems would become insolvent, and that would cause a tsunami-like effect nationally and internationally. And it was unstoppable. It was [mathematically inevitable].

    Medicare, according to Congressional Budget Office, in 2027 will begin the process towards bankruptcy. So, security as of today [will last until] 2034. Now, the major stakeholders in the world economies saw an existential threat. They understood that their power and wealth was in real jeopardy.

    And so a plan was developed, which was beyond the technology at that time, but the technology was being developed. So, for example, the Human Genome Project was mapped and completed.

    Then CRISPR technology was developed, which is gene editing or gene splicing in very precise ways. That was sold as a way to cure genetic diseases. There's a defective gene. You can just cut it out and splice in, cut and paste, basically, a healthy gene.

    That's the upside. The downside is that it creates possibilities to do gene editing for nefarious reasons. In 2015, Bill Gates said that the world population needs to be reduced by 15% through the use of vaccines because of global warming.

    The same Bill Gates in 2020 said 7 billion people must be vaccinated. So, the obvious rhetorical question is, ‘Why would I take a vaccine for my health from someone who's advocating the use of vaccines to reduce the world population?’

    In 2016, Klaus Schwab, in an interview said something very strange. He said that within 10 years, by 2026, every single human being will be tagged with a digital identifier. What does that mean, and why?

    Let's go through the sequence of events. A bioweapon is made with an antidote, which is being suppressed and hidden. [The bioweapon] is released. It's extremely easy to treat. However, that information is being suppressed, and access to those medications is being suppressed, and doctors who are advocating for it are being persecuted.

    Anything that seems to give people hope, lessen anxiety, encourage reintegration with your loved ones seems to be immediately vilified, even early intervention. If you look at the NIH, they recommend, as of today, not to treat COVID unless they're in the hospital with lung damage. Don't do that.

    And so, I was wondering, what is really going on? And why this incessant push to vaccinate everyone? Why jail doctors for using meds at work? Because it encourages the vaccine hesitancy.

    Then I realized something. There were two patents that I became aware of. They're separated by a year, but they're linked in the puzzle, in the concept. One was August 31, 2021, that describes ... nanotechnology engineering.2 It basically describes the following:

    That there is the capability, the technology, already existing, in these vaccines that allows for the measurement of biometric data, meaning your heart rate, your respiratory rate, temperature, and then the transmission of that data with your location to a third party.

    That didn't even make sense to me. Like what? But then I realized there's another patent owned by Microsoft. This one I remember by heart. It's an international patent, WO202060606. You can't make this stuff up. That patent describes linkage of biometric data transmission to cryptocurrency.

    Then I got it. And by the way, 2026, when everyone's supposed to be tagged with a digital ID, let's call it an internal Auschwitz tattoo, is a year before the beginning of the insolvency of Medicare and the beginning of economic collapse. And so, the real agenda has become obvious to me.

    It's never been about health. COVID-19 is easy to treat. It was always about using fear and mass psychosis to get 7 billion people to willfully get injected with the technology that would permit them to participate in the new cryptocurrency-based system, the system that the world will use for finance.

    Fiat currency and all the traditional ways of transactions will be gone. The only way that you actually will be able to participate in transactions, of buying bread, let's say, is having a transmitting sensor of information with your location. It's the mark of the beast, if you really want to know. With that, you can then buy bread for your family ...

    Gates and Schwab [are] both talking talk about how these vaccines change who you are. What does that mean? They explain it. [With] the gene editing technology, they are making the human better. That's transhumanism. I call it Human 2.0. Human 1.0 is the version made by God. We are is imprinted [with God] in our genetic code. We're made in the image of God because we have his code in us.

    Now, would you give Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab the password to your home security system? Why would we give him access to our genetic code? Human 2.0, in the demented, depraved, deranged minds of these people is the next step up in the evolution of human beings. And I'm saying that if you allow that to happen to yourself, you're no longer made in the image of God. You're made in the image of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab.”

    A Ploy to Tag Us for the NWO’s Slave System

    So, in summary, Zelenko believes that everything we’ve experienced so far — the aggressive marketing of the shots, the coercion and threats made to get as many injected as possible — has all been a ploy to “tag” as many people as possible in preparation for the New World Order’s cryptocurrency system, which will be managed by a small select group, and used to enslave all of humanity.

    As noted by Zelenko, the World Economic Forum has publicly announced that by 2030, the U.S. will no longer be a superpower, and a few countries will be in charge of global governance. Now, how do you destabilize an economic engine like the U.S.?

    “You create a pandemic,” Zelenko says. “You lock down middle class businesses, small businesses ... But you leave Walmart and Home Depot open ... It’s a wealth transfer from the middle class to the people in power. It's a robbery, basically.

    This is one big attempt at enslaving humanity. It's a brilliant plan, by the way. It's evil, but it's brilliant because slavery has always been the most lucrative industry and asset throughout human history. Now is no different. And so, you have a few sociopaths who believe in their immortality and think that they'll transfer their consciousness to some cyborg, enjoying the whole world as their playground.”

    Zelenko goes on to discuss the statements inscribed on the Georgia Guidestones, a huge granite monument erected anonymously in a small town in Georgia, which lays out 10 commandments. The first one is that the world population should be reduced to and maintained at 500 million. If the COVID shots continue, it’s not inconceivable that the human population might be reduced to that size.

    The Why Behind the Genocide

    A few months ago, Elon Musk debuted his humanoid robots, saying that since these robots will eliminate 90% of the workforce, we therefore need universal basic income. This too is part of The Great Reset plan, which embraces both technocracy and transhumanism.

    “Keep in mind that in the minds of these people, we're not made in the divine [image]. We're cockroaches. And they're not going to throw endless universal income resources at cockroaches for too long. They'll do it initially to identify the useless eaters, and then they will be liquidated. This has happened before.

    Just 80 years ago you had the Nazi ideology based on eugenics, which created three classes of people. You have the ubermensch, what Nietzsche would call Superman. Then the mensch, which is the human, and then the untermensch, which is the subhuman. In the [Nazi] model, the [Nazis were] Supermen, descendants of Aryan gods. That gave them the power to enslave others.

    So, for example, the Anglo-Saxons, basically Europeans, were meant to be slaves to the Aryans. And the subhumans, which I belong to — Jews, gypsies, Slavs, handicapped, political prisoners — we were meant to be vaporized, become dust.

    That ideology did not go away. It resurfaced with the nuance that is not antisemitic right now. In a kind of an abstract way, we're all Jews this time, because the hierarchy here is not based on religion or identity, but rather on the deranged belief that they've evolved, the Superman of this generation, into a higher level of consciousness.

    They're woke and they understand and are enlightened about the nature of the human condition. They're custodians of the planet, and therefore it's their responsibility to make sure the planet has solvency, that it continues to exist. And therefore, we have to reduce the world population.”

    Cause for Optimism

    While humanity is in a most precarious situation, Zelenko is optimistic about the future.

    “I'll tell you what I really think is going on,” he says. “There’s what we see, and then there's the, let's call it spiritual physics, at play. Karl Jung, the famous psychoanalyst, wrote, ‘The moral degradation of society begins with the degradation of the individual.’ From that, we can actually learn that moral improvement of society begins with improvement of the individual.

    We, as a society, over the last 50, 60 years, have made some very bad choices. For example, we've desanctified or defiled gender roles ... Marriage has lost its sanctity. The unborn are being massacred. In the Bible, there are two cities that were destroyed, Sodom and Gomorrah, and there's an analysis why that happened. It wasn't because of the immorality, because the whole world was immoral.

    It was because they codified immorality into the law of the land. That's exactly what has happened in [the U.S.] We've devolved ... We worship the God of science, the god of technology, the god of money, god of power. Anything but [the true] God. And we are clearly practicing child sacrifice.

    Dr. Michael Yeadon, former VP of Pfizer, told me personally, and then he actually publicized it, that for every one child that dies of COVID, 100 die from the vaccine. The [COVID shot] is 100 times more lethal to children than COVID. What do you call that? That's child sacrifice.

    So, I feel that, by way of analogy, we're in the generation of flood. The house is going to get cleaned, and each individual is given a choice to get on the ark or not.

    Or, to make it simpler, who do you bow down to? Do you bow down to your creator, who makes you in every instant of time? Do you ask [God] for fortitude, endurance, strength, resolve, the ability to deal with the unknown and fear? Or are you going to give in to the fear and bow down to corrupt sociopaths, oligarchs, corrupt governments, and the false promise of the golden calf of these vaccines?

    Because at this point, in this country at least, no one's holding you down and putting a needle into your arm. The majority of people, they want to travel by plane. They don't want to lose their job. They want to go to school. It's all these kinds of quality of life decisions. In other words, in a normal society, the parents sacrifice for the well-being of the children. In pagan societies, we sacrifice the children for the purpose of the adults.”
     
  9. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Peaceful Civil Disobedience Is the Answer

    So, what’s the answer? Can we stop this transhumanist trajectory that threatens the very core of what makes us human? Can we prevent this plan for our enslavement from coming to fruition? Zelenko believes there is a way, as do I.

    “The answer is we need organized civil disobedience. Do not comply. They can't imprison everyone. They can't fire everyone. They can't expel everyone. They can't lock down everyone. There's many more of us than them. And actually, let me speak to the military leaders, to the police, to people that are charged to protect society.

    You also have children. You also have parents. And we are relying on you to do what's best for the citizens of this country, to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic. All we need to do is to coalesce with like-minded people. Take your kids out of school. Homeschool them. You can teach them morality.

    The World Health Organization came out with an edict that if your kids go to school, that's implied consent for the vaccine because you could have not sent them. And since you sent them to school, that's implying that you're consenting for them to be vaccinated, even without your knowledge.

    Basically, we have to make small pockets, like cities of refuge, in a sense, of like-minded people; create an alternate society; do commerce with ourselves. I know there are forces really working hard to create an alternate cryptocurrency or blockchain system that is decentralized and would allow for people who don't want to be tagged with a digital identifier to transact with each other.”

    As noted by Zelenko, it’s becoming more and more obvious that the pandemic measures were never about protecting us from COVID. It was always about creating a new world order. It was about setting the stage for a Great Reset to “Build Back Better.”

    But better for whom? The Build Back Better plan is about building “a society run by a few sociopaths and the rest of us enslaved,” Zelenko says. The good news is that more and more people are now starting to see this plan, and “once that realization reaches a certain threshold of people, countries are going to change and fall like dominoes,” he says.

    As for when we might get our freedom back, that depends on us. As noted by Zelenko, “freedom isn't free.” We were free (at least up until 2020) because our forefathers had the courage to confront tyranny. If we want our children to be free, we now have to display that same courage.

    “Whether or not our children will be free depends on whether or not we are ready to sacrifice,” Zelenko says. “Are we ready, in this generation, to pay the price to ensure that our children thrive in freedom and have the ability to maintain God consciousness?

    It's going to happen. The unknown variable is to body count. I would hope that this interview reaches the consciousness of every single human being. People must choose to say no from this point on.”
     
  10. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I have a friend in his 30s. Healthy otherwise. Got the jab but as he said Covid kicked his butt last week for 3-4 days. He just told me today he seriously doubts it would have been worse with no jab.
     
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  11. EDT

    EDT 1,000+ Posts

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  13. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    The US is way worse than every country in Africa despite them not having vaxxed many people. So what's the point?
     
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  14. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    My son has three jabs. He is 25 years old. He contracted COVID a couple of weeks ago. He said it felt like bad allergies. He would not have thought much of it had I not asked him to get a test due to his decision to party like it's 2099 on New Years Eve. He wanted to come visit me and I asked him to take the test because I'm immunocompromised. Lucky for me I asked.
     
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  15. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Here are some real world stats from the northern territories. In a world where 1 would mean that the figures are the same in the population per 1000 person (but they're Okies, so adjust your cyphering accordingly).

    Cases: 13.9/x
    ER visits: 15.3x
    Inpatient Admission: 15.8x
    ICU Admission: 23.6x
    Death 18-35: 69x
    Death 36-49: 53x
    Death 50-64: 23x
    Death 65+: 12x
     
  16. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

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  17. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    "The unvaccinated without prior infection were by far the most likely to contract COVID-19 and require hospital care, the study found."

    It seems to me then it's a conscious decision not to vax and instead walk around waiting to be a carrier until you're well after catching it. In the meantime, you have to decide whether or not your decision to catch it (or not worry about catching it; meaning it's not a deliberate act to catch it) will put others at risk including hospital workers who may be forced to treat you.
     
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  18. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

  19. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    But By the point is even vaxxed you’re walking around with an equal potential to catch it and therefore pass it to another. I guess you’re saying the likely hood of serious infection is lowered for the vaxxed? But then they, just like the healthy who catch it and never know it, will unknowingly pass it on. In the 20’s when you tested positive you were told stay home. You either recovered or went to ER when symptoms demanded. Today they recognize treatment immediately for a positive test. Very different approach and very different results.
    For me the scariest thing right now is the impending approval to vax infants. That disturbs me.
     
  20. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    AC is that real?
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Ac
    :yikes:

    Nash
    You make a good point. Since vaxxed can transmit to other vaxxed and unvaxxed shouldn't people be given the choice to vax or not?
     
  22. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    WHAT window of time? You continue doing like the rest of the CDC idiots and throwing half-assed data points without actually GIVING the data. You will THEN accuse people of misrepresenting the misrepresentations you yourself tossed out...

    You ALSO make the same error that so many other agencies reporting visits and admissions do- you omit, perhaps deliberately, those who presented WITH the sniffles versus those who tested positive after seeking care for some other condition/ailment.

    You aren't interested in rational discussions. You are like every other libtile out there and obfuscating the numbers so that you can later move the goalpost when the digits don't align with your preferred narrative.
     
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  23. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Who knows. We've got psyops all over the internet. Deep fakes are out there. If it IS real, then more news will eventually come out. I believe the vaccines are dangerous. There is a lot of evidence that points to this. I know that is an unpopular opinion. But, evidence stands on its own. And the opinion is more popular now than a year ago or more. Somehow evidence has to be mainstream and that is what's being censored.
     
  24. OUBubba

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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    UK lifting COVID restrictions by March 10 seems to come out of nowhere.
    Wonder what Fauci et al will say now?
     
  26. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Sadly, I expect he will 'suggest' that the Hair Sniifer in Chief close the US borders to anyone flying from the UK or who holds a UK passport.
     
  27. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I had a reply in mind, then saw Nash's post #12,469 ( 2 down from yours). Said it all, right there.

    I respect your opinion, but disagree.
     
  28. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I'm glad we can be respectful. I'm just talking about it man. No emotion one way or the other. I'm just trying to figure it out.

    My comment was in response to this as a stipulation from the link you posted:


     
  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I don't know that vaxxed and unvaxxed have an equal potential to catch it. Both can, but I would guess they have significantly different rates. Also, you're told to stay home now if you catch it too. They shortened the timeframe as they learned more about the virus.
     
  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    No, they shortened the timeframe to make it more politically palatable. Every step they take these days is based on political considerations first, and medical considerations second (if at all).
     
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