Death toll in Texas elementary school; 18 children, 2 adults killed

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  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Actually Our Grid is doing fine
    So far
    Ask again in 2 mons
     
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  2. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    No it isn't. It is highly controlled by politicians and lawyers.
     
  3. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

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  4. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Or some, such as yourself, seem to ignore:

    the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
     
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  5. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    As mentioned before, the identification of "likely shooters" is a very difficult task, and although this would be a great benefit it is near impossible to attain. Just saw a study that indicated as much as 60% of men who commit suicide never displayed other mental health markers or indications of MH issues. Even when their lives were viewed with hindsight. I put the mass shooters in that same sort of "rage/depression" bucket where their thought process goes from "I'm fine" to "hurt someone/something/myself" in the matter of days if not hours. Hanging our hat on Mental Health remedies won't be enough. And even if there are outward identifiers, neither the subject nor their families/friends generally like pointing it out...especially to authorities. Sometimes they don't want to throw their friend under the bus, but more often, they don't want their friend to learn that it was them that threw them under the bus. Identifying someone you think could have MHealth issues is likely to offend (if not more) the person you identified.
     
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I think young men with no female interaction is a serious issue.
     
  7. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    You're awfully anti-gay for a liberal.
     
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  8. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    As there's no way to force people into mental health services, they only work on adults who are willing to use it. That means we have to make other changes to prepare for the actions of folks who don't utilized MH services.
     
  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

     
  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That's the comical thing - people of the Left ridiculing Texas for having an outage once in a century when their dream state has outages in a regular basis. It's astounding.
     
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  11. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I can live with this...Factbox: What's in and what's out of the Senate's gun-safety plan | Reuters

    IN: STATE CRISIS INTERVENTION SUPPORT
    OUT: ASSAULT-WEAPONS BAN
    IN: ENHANCED REVIEW PROCESS FOR BUYERS UNDER 21
    OUT: HIGHER AGE REQUIREMENT TO BUY SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES
    IN: PENALTIES FOR "STRAW PURCHASES"
    OUT: FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK EXPANSION
    IN: MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, TELEHEALTH INVESTMENTS
    OUT: REPEAL OF LIABILITY SHIELD
    IN: CLARIFICATION ON DEFINITION OF LICENSED DEALER
    IN: PROTECTIONS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS
    IN: SCHOOL-BASED MENTAL HEALTH AND SUPPORT SERVICES FUNDING
    IN: SCHOOL SAFETY RESOURCE FUNDING

    The other big thing I wish was "IN" is mandatory sentencing requirements for criminals in possession of a firearm, so we don't get situations like the recent murder of two LEO's in LA under the Gascon regime.
     
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  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Very workable ideas that could actually help
    No mention of Red Flag laws. GOOD
     
  13. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Since mental health is included in a gun safety plan, I'd also like to see school security improvements.
     
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  14. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    guy
    Agree. So sad we need more security in schools but there is no reasonable way to identify potential mass murderers without those closest to them stepping up.
    That is not likely to happen for many reasons.
    Also sadly media coverage of these horrific events inpires others to create their own.
    This is the world we now have.
     
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  15. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Yup. Of course kids should be able to go to school in peace. They can't so school buildings needs more security. Similar, folks should be able to travel via plane in peace. Terrorists have shown that isn't always possible so there's a lot more security in airports.
     
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  16. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

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  17. OUBubba

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  18. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Mr. Mireles would be justified to hate the department that escorted him out of the building.

    And what? Last time authorities said they waited for key from the principal or a custodian.

    "they would have found the door to the classroom where he was holed up was unlocked if they had bothered to check it."
     
  19. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Maybe so, but Beta proved what a classless jackass he is doing that simply for the optics of him being a "strong" leader.
     
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  20. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    The one pretending to be a "strong leader" was the one shouting him down from the stage. He's also the one claiming that the people who are telling us something new everyday about how poor the response was that almost assuredly led to MULTIPLE slow deaths are doing that for some political reason. Seeing his public performance as mayor coincides with how Ulvade has dealt with the crisis from minute 0.
     
  21. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    BobFrank was pandering to his base, as NOTHING he ranted about would have changed what occurred that day. He was creating a campaign finance ad because he has NOTHING of substance upon which to campaign.

    What we saw was ALSO the problem with the incessant rush to put stories into the media without proper investigations having been able to be conducted. I suspect this is part of why the ISD police chief is no longer cooperating with investigators and, quite possibly, will later be found to have died of self-inflicted lead poisoning (sort of like when the Warden deprived the inmates at Shawshank of his presence).

    We still see it with the whining by the media of an 'outside law firm' drafting the letter to the AG on open records requests. Never mind that MANY jurisdictions around the State send such matters to retained firms and use the exact same boilerplate in the initial letter to the OAG that HAS to be sent in a very short window of time, to be followed by a more specific brief on the matter.
     
  22. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I think campaigning on "I'm the opposite of Greg Abbott" platform may be effective. However, in a state that released their GOP platform on Juneteenth and either not recognizing the irony of that or being so assholey that they embraced it it may not work. He could heal the blind, teach lepers how to stop OU's offense, and throw all Sooners out of the state and the still wouldn't elect him.
     
  23. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I like that platform! :ousucks:
     
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  24. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    What's the problem there? It was Lincoln and the Republican party that freed all the slaves from southern Democrat plantation owners.
     
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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    As Sangre pointed out Juneteeth is a purely Republican driven event.Seems very apropo.
    Didn't realize the Demx found a way to criticize.
     
  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Oh no. This is where we'll hear that the parties somehow switched platforms in the 60s. Lincoln would have been a democrat today dont cha know.
     
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  27. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    They were both showing their politics but one (Beto) had an premeditated plan to try and upstage the governor and create a commercial moment. The other was reacting with anger in an extemporaneous fashion and let his politics influence his fervor.
     
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  28. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Because the big bad racist republicans did that just to pour salt in the wounds of the down trodden african americans in this state.

    To libs, the content doesn't really matter. It's just their perceptions of racists doing racist things.
     
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  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    If it walks like a duck...
     
  30. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Well now he's just gaslighting us all. But that's the GOP way. These are not the droids you're looking for...
     

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