Did Bush take swipe at Obama?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by libertytxn, May 15, 2008.

  1. libertytxn

    libertytxn 100+ Posts

    I think so. [​IMG]

    In a speech to Israel's Knesset, Bush said: "Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.

    "We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

    Obama responded with a statement, seizing on Bush's remarks even as it was unclear to whom the president was referring.

    "It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack," Obama said in the statement his aides distributed. "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel."

    The White House said Bush's comment wasn't a reference to Obama.

    .....

    The debate over whether the president should directly negotiate with rogue leaders has been one of the most prominent issue differences in the race for the Democratic nomination. Obama says he would meet with heads of state in places like Cuba, Iran and North Korea. Rival Hillary Rodham Clinton says those meetings could be used for propaganda and her first response will be outreach through other diplomatic channels.



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  2. Roger

    Roger 1,000+ Posts

    I would think it was more a swipe at Jimmy Carter
     
  3. SenateHorn

    SenateHorn 250+ Posts

    Why did Obama think it was about him?
     
  4. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts

    Well Obama has been able to make me think a Hillary Clinton presidency might not be so bad, so maybe he can convince Hamas to actually accept peace.
     
  5. allweatherHorn

    allweatherHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Bush's approach is more of "empowerment through incompetence" than appeasement. Iran has proven that you don't have to talk to the Bush Administration to get everything that you want.
     
  6. Kyrie Eleison

    Kyrie Eleison 500+ Posts

    That's right in BO's wheelhouse....and it's going to help BO immensely.

    The last thing McCain needs is a 20% Pres. backing McCain while yelling "I matter, too!!!"

    Furthermore, the ridiculous two-faced foreign policy that he employs and is wedding to McCain via his endorsement is the kiss of death. 80% of the folks out there want change, and **** like this ain't how you sell it if you're McCain.

    By "two-faced" I mean his propensity to pop off w/ admitting that he himself broke the very rule that he just made by negotiating with Libya and Khaddify (a known terrorist state and a known terrorist) and one of our "axis of evil" in North Korea.

    His giant ego won't let him step aside and remain quiet, and when speaks up he has an uncanny ability to make himself look like an dumbass.

    It's really amazing. But as a Dem I want to give him a big, hearty "Thanks!" for being the dumbass egomaniac that he is.
     
  7. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts


     
  8. Bottom Line

    Bottom Line 250+ Posts


     
  9. triplehorn

    triplehorn 2,500+ Posts

    When Bush says this to the Knesset:In reply to:


     
  10. Mr.Wizard

    Mr.Wizard 1,000+ Posts

    I thought it was about Carter also, weird.
     
  11. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts

    The Bush Administration says the comment was not directed at Obama.


     
  12. Kyrie Eleison

    Kyrie Eleison 500+ Posts

    That maybe directed at Carter, but I think he's countering this...


     
  13. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    I don't think Bush was making a swipe at obama. although i realize any contrary position to liberal policy is a racist attack against BHO, the fact is this statement by bush is not shocking at all, right or wrong it is the same position he has held throughout his administration...the dems are simply using this as more political pandering...im so sick of this election already, i cant believe i have to listen to 5 more months of this.
     
  14. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts

    I don't see any connection to Boehner and I think the Obama interview with Goldberg will be/was well received by those supportive of Israel in this country.

    Obama is not off the reservation on the Middle Eastern chess match. Carter is and has been rightfully rebuked by both those in his party (including Obama) and the opposing party. Carter wandered way afield and Obama called him out on it:


     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So both Bush and obama say we should not talk with terrorist groups or oganizations
    yet the cultists say Bush is wrong not to talk with terrorists orgs and took a " swipe" at obama?

    interesting
     
  16. Kyrie Eleison

    Kyrie Eleison 500+ Posts


     
  17. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts


     
  18. FondrenRoad

    FondrenRoad 1,000+ Posts

    From cnn.com article.


     
  19. Octavian

    Octavian 100+ Posts

    Bush's remark was obviously a jab at Obama. And the Israelis knew exactly what he was talking about....and they agree. Hillary Clinton also agrees.


    But...Ahmed Yousef and Hamas probably disagree.
     
  20. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts


     
  21. FondrenRoad

    FondrenRoad 1,000+ Posts


     
  22. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts

    I guess Obama's run of the mill feigned outrage worked. Oh my!
     
  23. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts


     
  24. Kyrie Eleison

    Kyrie Eleison 500+ Posts

    I see how it works....if a fact gets in the way of your own strawman, then you completely ignore the fact or call into question the motive of the reporter or the party charged with defending themselves.

    Even if that fact comes from the very people you are defending.

    Neato!

    Can 2 play that game, wash?
     
  25. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts


     
  26. FondrenRoad

    FondrenRoad 1,000+ Posts


     
  27. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts

    It isn't defending. It is seizing an opportunity to create a straw man that elevates the candidate to the level of the office he seeks and claim victory in an argument never made.

    It is political campaigning 101. It is a Rube Goldberg machine "rusing" the rubes.
     
  28. FondrenRoad

    FondrenRoad 1,000+ Posts


     
  29. Michael Knight

    Michael Knight 1,000+ Posts

    Countin the days when this idiot is gone
     
  30. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    this wouldnt even be news if the obama camp had not made an issue of it. nobody listens to what bush has to say anymore. the obama camp wanted this to be news so it is.
     

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