Did we really agree to this? vis a vis Iran deal

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    This is from the Washington Free Beacon. It does include quotes from the head of the IAEA . If this is accurate why BO/ Kerry etc agree to this?
    "The head of the international community’s nuclear watchdog organization disclosed Monday that certain agreements reached under the Iran nuclear deal limit inspectors from publicly reporting on potential violations by the Islamic Republic.

    Yukiya Amano, chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA, which is responsible for ensuring Iran complies with the agreement, told reporters that his agency is no longer permitted to release details about Iran’s nuclear program and compliance with the deal.

    Amano’s remarks come on the heels of a February IAEA oversight report that omitted many details and figures related to Iran’s nuclear program. The report sparked questions from outside nuclear experts and accusations from critics that the IAEA was not being transparent with its findings.

    Amano disclosed in response to questions from reporters that the last report was intentionally vague because the nuclear agreement prohibits the IAEA from publishing critical data about Iran’s program that had been disclosed by the agency in the past."

    Much much more disturbing ( if accurate) news at link. Why would BO/Kerry agree to this?
  2. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 500+ Posts

    Because they want Iran to be able to wipe Israel off the map. Seriously.
  3. UTChE96

    UTChE96 1,000+ Posts

    Unfortunately we never learned from our disastrous "Agreed Framework" deal with North Korea.
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Can you guess who lobbied the hardest on the Iran deal?

    Need a hint?

  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    BO made some pretty bad deals but this is the worst and will haunt us for a long time
    BO's legacy is not going to be one he likes.
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 5,000+ Posts

    This is also why the EU wanted the deal. It's all about money.
  7. I35

    I35 2,500+ Posts

    I have been wondering for some time now just which team BHO bats for. If you listen to his words then you'd be convinced that it's for America. But if you turn the volume off when he speaks and just watch his actions then that tells you every thing you need to know. How he got elected even one time is unbelievable. Now Hillary has made the mistake of running a Obama third term. I said it was a huge mistake when she said it the first time. November 8th will tell us just how big of a mistake she made.
  8. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    We just approved the $38 billion package to Israel for defense. It's the most we've ever given to an ally in one swoop. So, if we wanted them wiped off the map, wouldn't we just ignore any future contributions?
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    So, they got someone else to pay for their wall(s)?
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    such a disgrace

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  11. Clean

    Clean 2,500+ Posts

    Shush, you're talking about Obama's legacy there. Keep repeating; this is a great deal. this is a historic deal, etc. etc.
  12. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 1,000+ Posts

    The two huge legacy features...Obamacare and Iran deal.

    Both complete disasters sold to the public under cover of outright lies and riddled with disgusting hidden provisions.

    10 years from now both will be seen as historic failures that severely damaged the American people both financially and threatening our security. :puke:
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    well played Obama

  14. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    How much of the deal can be overturned?
  15. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 1,000+ Posts

    Since it clearly meets all the requirements of a treaty yet was refused to be framed or legitimatized as one, I'm assuming DT could pull out under those grounds.

    Or even have it reframed as a treaty and voted on by Congress, which it would then be denied. Not saying he would do this, but seems to me he has grounds to back out under cover that it was an illegitimate agreement not following our treaty laws.

    Much was said about this treaty avoidance when it was about to be signed without Congressional approval. I believe Trump has mentioned it since winning the election.
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 5,000+ Posts

    It's an executive agreement that can be dumped at any time. Trump could seek to kill it immediately, but I wouldn't. There's no benefit to doing that, and it would piss off our allies that naively take it seriously. That would make it hard to get them to reimpose sanctions. Instead, I'd just wait until Iran violates it, which won't take long if it hasn't happened already.
  17. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 1,000+ Posts

    They already did a few times exceeding the limit of heavy water stockpile.

    "The deal specifies a heavy water limit of 143.3 tons. The International Atomic Energy Agency report found that Iran's stockpile exceeded that amount by 0.10 metric tons. It marked the second time Iran stepped over the limit, according to investigators."
  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 5,000+ Posts

    I don't know enough about nuclear energy and weapons to know if this is a significant violation that Iran obviously did intentionally or if we'd be busting them for going 56 in a 55 mph zone. If it is, then I'd use it as justification to withdraw.
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  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    It should be noted that General Mattis has recommended against pulling out of the Iran deal per various reports.

    I tend to agree with Mr. Deez. Obviously, with egregious violations of the agreement we should look at pulling it. Not sure ripping it up over technicalities is the right course of action.
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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