DL Jordan Elliott is leaving

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Joe Fan, May 18, 2017.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    DL depth an even bigger issue now
  3. bystander

    bystander 1,000+ Posts

    Man this team is so snake-bit over the years at DT and TE.
  4. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 5,000+ Posts

    Can't figure out if he's leaving because of the academic demands or if he's not the star he thinks he is under the new staff.
  5. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 500+ Posts

    maybe he just sees himself developing better for the next level in a different defense?
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I have been reading a few accounts on this, but its all somewhat nebulous.
    Both guys might want to transfer to Missouri where Brick Haley went.
    But we can block it, like we blocked transfers to USF.
    Nothing formal or public on this so far.

    The defensive staff is supposed to want to play more 4-man DL fronts this coming season and we were already thin on the interior line positions. So, however you look at it, these transfers do not help in that effort.
  7. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    The $EC is a run oriented league so the DL techniques are simple when compared to what is needed in the Big XII so Haley's unofficial "recruiting" of them is understandable. Since over the past 3 seasons Texas could not get constant pressure on the QB with the front 3/4, Texas isn't losing much because those two did not account for much. Looks like a win/win as it opens playing time to those who want to play for Texas.
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    But improper, and sanctionable, if true
  9. nashhorn

    nashhorn 1,000+ Posts

    well s**t. no further message.
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Current Roster
    Charles Omenihu DE 6-7 270 Jr. 2L Rowlett, Texas Rowlett
    Malcolm Roach DE 6-3 270 So. 1L Baton Rouge, La. Madison Prep Academy
    Andrew Fitzgerald DE 6-6 265 Fr. RS Flower Mound, Texas Marcus
    (Naashon Hughes is a LB, mostly)

    Poona Ford DL 6-0 310 Sr. 3L Hilton Head, S.C. Hilton Head
    Chris Nelson DL 6-3 300 Jr. 2L Lakeland, Fla. Victory Christian
    D’Andre Christmas-Giles DL 6-2 315 So. 1L New Orleans, La. St. Augustine
    Gerald Wilbon DL 6-3 320 So. 1L Saint Rose, La. Destrehan
    Chris Daniels DL 6-3 330 Fr. RS Euless, Texas Trinity

    Taquon Graham DE 6-3 255 Temple (Temple, TX)
    Marqez Bimage DE 6-3 233 Brenham (Brenham, TX)
    Max Cummins DE 6-6 255 All Saints Episcopal (Fort Worth, TX)
    Jamari Chisholm DL 6-5 280 Northeastern Oklahoma A&M (Miami, OK)
    Last edited: May 24, 2017
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  11. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    There are enough bodies. Next issue?
  12. baoklhorn

    baoklhorn 1,000+ Posts

  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    More so even when the base is a 3-man front with one of the OLBs acting as the other DE when called for. 2018 might be more of an issue than this season. Also, we know they want more height/size with their DEs in the future.
  14. NRHorn

    NRHorn 500+ Posts

    Wasn't Elliot headed to BU, then jumped ship? Now at UT things don't go his way...so he jumps ship. Interesting, seen it before and never seen it work out for the 5 Star youngsters who have just found out they aren't playing HS ball anymore.
    That said, I sincerely hope these two do well.
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Baylor, then UH, then Big Blue, then us
    (+ rumored unofficial ties to USC and Oregon and so forth)

    This cake is Texas, if its not clear
    Last edited: May 23, 2017
  16. easy

    easy 1,000+ Posts

    some saying fowler gone also
  17. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 1,000+ Posts

  18. caryhorn

    caryhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Actually, I don't think this is "enough bodies." Two defensive ends who have played at least one down of college ball. No experienced depth here at all. Not good. I would like to redshirt a freshman, grow him strengthen him before having to count on him.
    Three tackles who have played at least one down of college football. Only one player with experience to rotate in. Again, would prefer to redshirt the freshman, enlarge him, strengthen him, etc.

    Don't have any clue how the freshmen will play. Experienced talent is always preferable to untested, learning on the fly players. Whatever, they will play as best as they can, as hard as they can, and fight the whole game. They will be well coached. They will be playing against well coached players on the top B12 opponents. Their hands will be full.
  19. gahornphan

    gahornphan 500+ Posts

    Sorry but...
    Losing "experience" from a 5-7 team whose defense was historically bad is not that big a concern for me, unless your name is Jefferson or Hager.
    Time for some real playmakers to step up.
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  21. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 500+ Posts

    so he sits out a year?
  22. caryhorn

    caryhorn 2,500+ Posts

    No need to be sorry for disagreeing with me. I've been wrong enough and right enough to know that differing opinions about stuff like this is welcome.

    It is my thought that the 5-7 season was mainly due to poor coaching. Poor preparation, poor in game decisions, poor everything. Not so much due to the actual talent of the players. They were young to be sure, but I thought they played with very good athleticism, but not good leadership or coaching.

    I look for the team to be improved this year due to coaching, and the growth and maturity of a young team.

    That being said, I wish those two big D linemen would be here to contribute. But they won't so good luck to them. Herman will get the most out of what is here; and we could not say that for the previous regime.
  23. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 1,000+ Posts

    Can't say that for Herman yet either.
    I feel good about the direction.
    Herman will prove it to me on the field next fall.
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  24. utempire

    utempire 500+ Posts

    Why go to mizzou? The university and athletics are in shambles and will stay that way.
  25. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 1,000+ Posts

    Quote from Elliot: "Missouri’s a powerhouse for defensive linemen. They’re coming and going first round every year. That’s real appealing to me."

    He seems to be living in an alternate reality.
  26. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Street agents have to eat too
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  27. OldHippie

    OldHippie 2,500+ Posts

    Brick Haley, as someone mentioned earlier.
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