I am reasonably clear on the traditional definition of “scoreboard,” i.e. a large board for displaying the score of a game or match. My question regards the modern usage. I'm informed that “scoreboard” = “a technique for ending an argument. The scoreboard will truly reflect who is winning, regardless of what the other party is saying. Scoreboard suggests that what’s relevant are the cold hard numbers. If you have scoreboard, then the facts/numbers are on your side and you can end the argument by just pointing.” Nice. But what are the parameters? What numbers matter? I think it's obvious we have scoreboard against tamu and ou. We won this year, and have more wins in the series. Is that the end of the argument? To possess “scoreboard,” must we have won more games in a series, or just won the most recently played contest? Does it matter how long ago the game was played? In 1904 the University of Chicago beat UT. We’ve never played since, in part because they do not have a football team. Do they have scoreboard forever? Colorado College has a football team, but the Geneva Convention stipulations against mass murder forbid us from us playing them now. They beat us in 1908 (I think). Can we get scoreboard on them? What if we challenged them to a game and they declined? Does Ohio State have scoreboard over Texas? In my memory, we’ve only played twice (in football) and the series is even at 1-1. Each team defeated the other at home. Our victory was part of a national title season & we have the most recent national championship, but they have more titles. Is any of that relevant? Are there tiebreakers? Do sports besides football count? What about games forfeited due to NCAA sanctions? We’ve beaten Auburn 5/8 meetings, but they won the last (in 1991). Scoreboard? Same for Washington State and Virginia? For the sake of clarity, please assuming the following situation: There’s a team out there (call it Mossy Rock U.) that’s played Texas 51 times. Texas leads the series 50-1. MRU has never won a conference or national title. The two schools have not played in 40 years. Texas lost the most recently played game. Who'd have scoreboard?
Scoreboard belongs to the team that won the most recent game. It doesn't matter if the series is 200-1. That's the entire point of scoreboard. I didn't think this was up for debate. Sort of an odd thread, to say the least.
"Scoreboard" is somewhat like Coke or bread. It goes flat or gets stale once opened. It has a very short shelf-life and quickly reaches "History." "Scoreboard" completely evaporates by the start of the second season after the last meeting. It then becomes the granite of "History." So, in this case, Ohio State vs. Texas in '09, the '06 game is part of "History" with the '05 game. Therefore, neither team has a leg up going into the Fiesta. "History" says it's 1-1. This is simple stuff. I'm surprised all Horn fans are not up to speed on this simple concept.
tOSU has scoreboard. It has minimal importance, and then only that much because the teams still have a number of players that are important now as they were in the last matchup. Scoreboard seems to have the most meaning when you are in the stadium and dealing with loudmouth idiots who don't know their team is taking an asskicking. The decay after that is precipitous, if you ask me.
The Shoe has three scoreboards, IIRC. One behind each end zone, and a third under the west-side upper deck. The t in tOSU is a reference to their name being "THE Ohio State University." I find it useful to distinguish the Buckeyes from other OSU's in college football, esp. since we have one in our conference.
I agree that scoreboard has a shelf-life, but that shelf life certainly is longer than 2-3 years. The fact that our series with Ohio State is 1-1 is completely irrelevant to determining scoreboard--only the most recent game counts. Of course, that will change in about 2.5 weeks.
I think scoreboard applies for fans for two years, tops. More likely one season. For players, I think they can declare it as long as they're still on the team. E.g., Laurinaitis can claim scoreboard on McCoy.
mackfan, you can always refer to the buckeyes as the team with the biggest douchebag fan base for home games in the country and the worst shenanigans of any program in the country, win or lose. The sofa burning kings! The school that pretends to be something they are not, classy, by calling a school worthy of praise and respect, Michigan, scUM. What a joke. Like anybody respects Ohio State half as much as Michigan. Like they have one fourth the reputation or prestige. Again, a joke. Sweater Vest deserves much better.
The Ohio State University is the legal name for tOSU. There are actually a lot of institutions that have "the" in their name. The Citadel, The University of Charleston, The University of Chicago, The University of Alabama, The University of Arizona. As someone else mentioned, it does make it easier to differentiate between tOSU and the other OSU's such as Oklahoma State, Oregon State and others.
Of course OSU has scoreboard. Colt McCoy was the quarterback in the last game. It's not ancient history. The '05 teams are almost completely gone, but the '06 teams have a few of the same players, including Laurinaitis and Jenkins.
how about cbOSU...as in couch-burning Ohio St. University. bOSU...as in buckstache Ohio St. University..
My apologies if this was an obvious/remedial-level question & thank you all for the elucidation. I do not have an axe to grind; I just strive to use terms correctly.
coder, BOMC means Burnt Orange Media Conspiracy. It means both the seeming omnipresent nature of the Longhorns or the power to promote them from various angles (media, movies, fans, airplanes, etc.) and the paranoia of aggy. See, aggy has cried in the past at the glowing attention that UT gets and some in the past have accused us of paying them to say certain things that put us in a favorable light while they are portrayed as the obsessed fake army cult type, which they are. And to stick up for Shark, he backs down from nothing. I assume he had to eat dinner and maybe prepare a couch for proper burning in Belton in early January. Or he just had dinner and other things to do. But he won't back down from things, especially the "t" conversation. I don't think anybody cares about the "t" so much as where it comes from. When former players speak of the school they emphasize "THE".
the "t" in "tOSU" is to differentiate between Ohio State and Okie State. And tOSU has scoreboard. Just like the University of Chicago has scoreboard.
It seems like it's not followed much anymore, but for a long time when you referred to UT, it was "The University of Texas", not the University of Texas.
"Scoreboard" is useful during the game if you are Phil Geigger and an A&M player is talking trash to you.
"Scoreboard" only has meaning in the current season, i.e., for the current teams. It's a direct comparison of which existing team was better, not an inference involving computers, polls, personal beliefs, etc. It loses all meaning when it is extended back into time to some prior season, even last season, and some other set of team's players, coaches, and situations. Saying some team has scoreboard on another team in the present tense because of a game two years ago is just dumb.