Dumb Political Correctness

I always hear the discussion about how the Republicans were the party of Lincoln and how the Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In my view these types of arguments are misleading because I don't see today's right-wingers in those parties of long ago. Times have changed and so have labels. I deal with today and what people are saying. I agree, the Nazi's are not left-wing just as today's KKK is not either.

However, there are elements of extreme Fascism (and we don't have to dig that argument up again about whether Fascism is a right-wing construct or not) on the Left. The forced decision making that is now taking place, "You either agree with us or else" is taking place on the Left. Maxine Waters (who I believe you consider to be a bit player) is clearly feeling her oats about her place in history and has gone all in with rhetoric that is over the top. She is very dangerous. She is a totalitarian and needs to be rebuked by the Democrats. You could say that about Trump but the fact is many Republicans have expressed extreme discomfort with his rhetoric. But like Maxine, Trump is stubborn and their style works for them.

 

Calling Waters "dangerous" then following that with "extreme discomfort" with Trump is the problem, IMHO. They are both very dangerous and need to be called out. It's this double standard that allows the behavior to continue.

 

I don't equate Waters with Trump. She is calling for a rebellion. She knows her constituency. She is calling for impeachment without any high crime or misdemeanor. She just hates him. She doesn't have to have a reason.

Trump backed off on the border policy though we know for a fact it happened in prior administrations without a peep from the Left. The media is recklessly publishing photos that are outright lies. What do you expect? I am trying very hard to remain balanced but he's managing a situation that is out of control with the Left exacerbating it.

 

Did Trumps policy change have nothing to do with the outrage? He's truly a wizard that he can create the problem and have his supporters believing it was someone else.

That does not forgive the media missteps. Those play into Trump's narrative and offer cover for his actions.

Edit: Sorry for pointing my agitation at you bystander. You've been willing to have an open conversation which I appreciate. My irritation is that when the moderate forces of the left/right shout at the extremes of the other side then whimper at their own extremes there is no hope to change the discourse.

 

I'm sure the outrage spurred it. Definitely. But the point is that the Left NEVER CARED until now. It's obvious to me. That is why we can't come together. The Left (maybe not you; I give you the benefit of the doubt) is using this as a rallying point.

Do you think the media made honest mistakes or knew what they were doing? They know how headlines work. They know the short-attention span of Americans. They know that sound-bites and a picture here and there is all it takes to move public opinion. They covered for Obama in my view. For some reason those mistakes didn't happen by the media.

 

If you're looking for work with a specific employer or class of employers immediately out of college, that's surely true. I doubt that Google is hiring too many graduates out of West Texas A&M. However, if you just want a good job and a chance to prove yourself after graduating, I don't think you need MIT or Stanford.

Also, keep in mind that UT ain't MIT or Stanford. lol

 

SH
Are you saying Trump created the laws and rulings that govern apprehended illegals who brought children?

 

Totally agree with you. Also Trump has never called for his followers to shout down the opposition.

 

The whole thing is a game. Catch and release was classic. They don't show up for court and disappear into the population. Then when they are caught again the Left screams we are breaking up families. They know what they are doing.

 

The truth is modern politics are completely different from the past and even 10 years ago. Trump has caused another great upheaval. Since Trump moved the unions to the GOP, what is right and left in America is very screwy. The GOP is now a combination of rich business owners (former federalists and whigs), dixiecrats and union workers. All three of these groups spent the majority of this county’s history opposing each other and even fighting the civil war against each other. The three GOP groups are all on different parts of the left-right scale, with Trump’s union base being on the left. Adding Trump and the union base has killed many classic GOP positions such as balancing the budget. The modern democrats are a new group that emerged out of the FDR era, and honestly, all the three modern GOP groups have in common is they dont like modern democrats. It will be interesting to see if such an alliance can hold in the long run. As michael moore and others have pointed out, trump’s union base is left wing and democrats really need to focus on recruiting them back if they want to beat Trump. So far I have not seen the democratic party do it. We’ll see in the next election.

Also, we really need to just call the modern nazis, kkk and their ilk “white supremacists.” They really are not true nazis because I doubt they support the various economic and civic policies of national socialism. Hell, they may not even be fascists as I dont know they even want a dictator. Many also are criminals and arent fans of the police. I also doubt they agree with the klan’s various progressive positions (not on race, but on government) from 100 years ago. They are one-trick ponies that ONLY care about racism and white supremacy. That’s it. They combine and adopt any symbol they feel is racist from old british colonial flags, to confederate flags, to nazis symbols to even the star spangled banner, even though such symbols directly conflict with one another. They support the right in america only because the right tends to be conservative on race issues. The right really does not support their agenda at all and no one in the GOP is advocating to bring back racial segregation, it is just the right’s policies are less hostile towards the white supremacist one issue agenda. Like I said, these bozos really arent anywhere on the true right/left scale, they are just bozos obsessed with racism/hate and have no other issues. The reason, I may add, that they are small in number and outcasts and not a political threat is, unlike the nazis or the klan in the 20s, they bring nothing to the table but hate. Both the nazis and the klan had a full economic and civic agenda that attracted regular people to go along with their hate. Modern white supremacists really have nothing on their agenda but hate and racism, unlike the 1920s nazis and klan they admire and try to copy. Really, in modern times, they are just hateful, bigoted fools. I will also add that there are plenty of other “one trick pony” groups considered to be on the “right” and “left” despite really only having one issue in common or semi-in common. See those that want to legalize weed and like Ron Paul. They really arent libertarians, but they like that Ron Paul is not hostile towards weed. Bill Maher made fun of this one time about how many of his fellow stoners were rallying behind someone they did not agree with on anything but weed.

 

That's true, and personally I always feel like it's a pretty weak argument. Having said that, I feel like we've been told relentlessly lately that you are your history, and that if your forbearers did it, you're responsible no matter what.

 

Speaking of which...

Human sacrifice is a horrible thing, except when it's part of your deep-rooted indigenous culture, in which case who are we to judge? And why is it any worse than anything else? Clearly the Aztecs' view on life-affirming cultural activities are just as valid as those who did NOT embrace the idea of cutting hearts out of living human beings in ritual sacrifices that killed hundreds of thousands of people.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...l-massive-scale-human-sacrifice-aztec-capital

Pretty sure that "the entire practice of human sacrifice" was, in fact, evidence of their barbarism. But I'm judgmental that way.

 

No problem. I can appreciate how engaged you are. Passion is a good thing. I'm always good with you.

 

I will not accept any responsibility for the actions of others just because of the color of my skin (or for any other reason). Why should I? It runs counter to content of character forms of judgment. At the same time I'm willing to pay my taxes, give to charity and demand for justice along with fair, even-handed application of the law. I'm trying to understand the issues at hand but the loudest voices are hard to tune out. They are effective in summoning anger from the masses. I don't want to be swept up with a mob.

There is a huge difference in life today and how it was when Dr. King came of age as an activist. Sometimes I let that difference create some cynicism in me and I question the motives of those in power. I get that apathy is a cancer when there is a problem (an injustice as Dr. King defined it) and maybe being taken out of our comfort zone is the only way to enact change. Trump did a good thing (not as a saint but at least in recognizing something wasn't working possibly as intended) with his executive order concerning separating the children. Now there is no excuse. Certainly there will always be someone who is trampled by life and there will always be a child that is harmed by a long migration north with parents fully intending on testing our laws. They have to take responsibility for some of that. I reject imputing it all upon Trump. Immigration laws as we have said over and over weren't invented on his watch.

 

But the Spaniards were white and Christian, and that's reason enough to bash them.

 

And just to prove to me that I cannot possibly have misinterpreted the crazy, here comes the author:

 

He only called for his supporters to beat up the opposition. He even offered to pay legal expenses. How soon some forget.

 

How soon you forget Soros money was used to pay protesters to incite Trump supporters.

 

Per this there is a choice. The Trump admin changed which direction they went for a misdemeanor offensem

 

Link with proof rather than claim?

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/18/undercover-video-shows-democrats-saying-they-hire-/

 

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...ald-trump-supporters-phoenix-rally/584350001/

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-tax-return-protesters-237262

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-paid-protesters-huppke-20170227-story.html

 

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/poli...obert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/index.html

 

Washington (CNN)A Democratic operative whose organization was helping Hillary Clinton's campaign announced Tuesday that he would be "stepping back" from the campaign after an edited video suggested that he and other staffers hired people to attend Donald Trump's campaign rallies and incite violence.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...liance-anti-trump-activists-meeting/99417808/

 

George Soros-aligned group weighs funding anti-Trump activists

FREDREKA SCHOUTEN | USA TODAY | 3:33 pm EDT March 20, 2017

WASHINGTON — A network of some of the nation’s wealthiest Democratic donors is weighing providing money and support to several of the new activist groups that have cropped up since Election Day to challenge President Trump and his agenda.

 

http://www.thewhim.com/soros-funded-groups-behind-paid-protests-trump-rallies/

 

Hilarious. Even though I blocked his dumb ***, I know exactly who you ***** slapped with all those links.