Dumb Political Correctness

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Sounds discriminatory to me. If it isn't illegal then we don't live in a rule of law place anymore. Rome has fallen.
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Of course it discriminates. Laws discriminate all the time. For example, you can drive a car, vote, and buy booze and cigarettes, but a ten year old can't. That's discrimination.

    The big issue is the basis of the discrimination. Income and wealth are not "suspect classifications" (like race, national origin, or religion). Accordingly, the court won't apply strict scrutiny to the law. It's not even a quasi-suspect classification (like sex), which would warrant intermediate scrutiny. Instead, it'll get the so-called "rational basis" test, which almost never results in the law being struck down. That's why a progressive state income tax doesn't get struck down.
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    But a reverse progressive tax would
    On EP grounds
     
  4. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    The other element here is...wait until they find out just how much it actually costs to diagnose mental illness. Defendant STILL has a burden of proving up most affirmative defenses. Same holds true with addiction...consistent use, to include the commission of crimes to obtain narcotics is not, in and of itself, evidence of 'addiction.'

    Not to mention that in order to CLAIM the affirmative defenses, this crap would require the Defendant to forfeit their right against self-incrimination as the case must necessarily go to trial in order to advance the defense.
     
  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    mb
    Nice
    I wonder if the Seattle councilpeople were briefed on this by the city Attorney.
     
  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Why are you guys doing this?

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  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    $298.97???
    Only 1 left?
    Prolly only 1 made
     
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  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Not likely.
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Disagree 100%
     
  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Well, we've had taxes that were regressive that didn't get struck down in court.
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    More from my favorite lesbian

     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    As they were mocking the 10s of millions who lost jobs, SNL was operating under special circumstances from the Govt that let their "comedians" keep their high paying jobs

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  14. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    It's called partiality and it is opposite of equal application of law. I get that there is a legal history and theory that arrives at what you are saying. But it defies logic to say that a law should apply only to a poor, middle class, or rich person. That is the definition of injustice. It may be legal. That just means our laws are injust.
     
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  15. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    SNL is just propaganda. Haven't watched them since they called Ben Carson unintelligent.
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I get that and don't necessarily disagree. However, the equal protection clause is something that we apply much more broadly than it was intended to be applied. It was primarily intended to preempt racially discriminatory laws (specifically the Black Codes that many former Confederate state legislatures had passed after the Civil War). It has become a much bigger beast than that.

    Ultimately, it's a terribly-written law, because if taken literally, there virtually isn't a law that can't be struck down depending on how you frame the issue. I don't like to play the lawyer card because I know how obnoxious it sounds, but non-lawyers (especially conservative non-lawyers) really don't understand how big of a difference issue framing makes. For example, bad issue framing through an equal protection lense is how we lost on gay marriage and how we are starting to lose on the tranny issue.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Haves pointing fingers and admonishing the Have-Nots for not wanting to starve to death has some parallels to the French Revolution
    Pate Davidson is the modern Marie Antionette
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Just reverse it. Legislation creating a "special class" of citizens who are exempt from criminal laws if their AGI is above $400k per year would be unconstitutional on EP grounds.
     
  19. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I am self-aware enough to know this exists but not knowledgeable enough to know how it applies. I don't disagree with your description of how the law applies. My problem is with how it is applied doesn't sound just.
     
  20. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Pete's a dumbass with no real purpose in life who has found some kind celebrity. He will do whatever it takes to remain liked by his other celebrity friends. It is the only kind of purpose he has.
     
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  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

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  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I get that, and that brings up the long battle over the judiciary. Is a judge's job to apply the law as it's written or to "do justice?"
     
  23. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Oh no, someone disagreed with something, we must take down the FB page we use to communicate with our citizens

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  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    They need to interpret and apply law. If something needs to be fixed, then fix the law to conform better to justice.
     
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  26. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    ahem...you mean your SECOND favorite. RIGHT?
     
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  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    A fair description of board lefties?

     
  29. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The projection is strong here.
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Merry Christmas from an abortion clinic worker, and possible poster herein

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