Moon, I now know why you use that name, since it seems that you live in a different world. Normally I would say that I would like to meet "others", but I really don't. Herman has burned every bridge he had: Former players Administrators Fans Season ticket holders Small Donors Regular donors BMD HS coaches Coaches at other P5 schools The guy has no common sense, can't coach, can't recruit, can't build and maintain relationships. What's left? OH, he is really good at pissing people off and turning his back on his friends. We have unfortunately met the real Tom Herman, and it cost The University Athletic Department over $100 million with his actions. He is a huge liability and I don't want him around.