General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  2. Joe Fan

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    Hillary has supposedly demanded they both sit for the debates
    Could be the height differential (6'2 vs 5'6)
    Or, is it that she is afraid of having to stand for that long?
     
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  3. Joe Fan

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  4. mchammer

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  5. mchammer

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  6. mchammer

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  7. mchammer

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    May or may not be the same guy.
     
  8. Clean

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    The wouldn't happen to be Nigerian billionaire Gilbert Chagoury would it? Some think he influenced Hillary to NOT designate Boko Haram as a terrorist group when she was Sec. of State. There was correspondence from him in the 44 Hill emails just released. He wanted something from State. Apparently Uma did whatever for him so that Hillary could claim innocence.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tion-nigerian-donor-spark-gop-infighting.html

    Pretty sure I heard Hugh Hewitt call the Clintons a "criminal cartel" this morning. That's pretty strong language from him. He's no Hannity. Hugh vehemently opposed Trump during the primaries, but fears what the Clinton's will do so much that he's started backing him.
     
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    Glad to see he finally awoke to the realization of a majority HRC Court.
    Isn't he an attorney? If so, he should have realized this long ago.
     
  11. Clean

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    Yes, Hugh went to Harvard under grad, then Michigan law. He's trying to get wavering Repubs on board, mainly to prevent the High Court take over, which could last for decades.

    A local radio talking head (not Hugh) suspects that in return for Obama keeping the DOJ off the Clinton's back, Hillary will appoint BO himself to the high court. Wouldn't that be a kick in the teeth? He also thinks Michelle Obama will run for Senate a la Hillary. I fear we're not done with the Obamas by a long shot.
     
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  12. NJlonghorn

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    I have raised this possibility in another thread. I would hate to see it happen, but watching conservatives choke on their own vomit would be a silver lining.
     
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  13. Joe Fan

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    If she does win, I am all for her nominating old, decrepit types, like Bill.
    How much longer do we think he is going to remain among the living?
    Looks pretty frail and wobbly.

    But whoever it is, it is bad news for the future of the country.
    Say goodbye to the US you knew and loved.
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is some Texas polling, if anyone is interested

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    Whites: Trump 51 Hillary 31
    Blacks: Trump 13 Hillary 71
    Hispanics: T 32 H 48
    Other: T 39 H 42
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    Texas: Trump versus Romney
    Whites: Trump 51 (Romney 76)
    Black: T 13 (R 6)
    Hispanic: T 32 (R 39)
    Other: T 39 (R 43)

    Texas: Hillary versus Obama
    White: Hillary 31 (Obama 22)
    Black: H 71 (O 93)
    Hispanic: H 48 (O 59)
    Other: H 42 (O 55)
     
  15. Joe Fan

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  16. Joe Fan

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    The Clintons gave $1,042,000 to "charity" in 2015.

    One million of it went to the Clinton Foundation.
     
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  17. NJlonghorn

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    There are legitimate concerns about how the Clinton Foundation and its leaders interact with the Federal government. But there is no question about its status as a successful, beneficial charity. The foundation has a wide range of successful programs around the world.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    In 2013, the Clinton Foundation spent only 10% of its budget on charitable grants

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    Source: their own tax filings
    http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/311/580/2013-311580204-0b0083da-9.pdf

    Among the travel charges (which at 10%, were equal to the amount given as grants), you will see first class travel/accommodations for all of the Clintons.

    And speaking of tax returns, the Clinton Foundation has to quickly refile its 2011 and 2012 returns once the media caught on that they were not reporting foreign contributions.

    An example of how this scheme worked was with Rosatom, the Russian company that acquired the Canadian firm that owned 20% of all uranium producing capacity in the United States. That Canadian firm was owned by Frank Giustra, a friend of Bill Clinton’s and who, oh by the way, was a member of the Clinton Foundation board. Because of the uranium, the deal needed secretary of state approval. What did she get for that approval? $130M to the Clinton Foundation.

    It's amazing these people are not already in the pokey.
     
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  19. Joe Fan

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    Charity Navigator, considered by many to be the most influential charity watchdog and which rates nonprofits, put the Clinton Foundation on its "watchlist" warning potential donors that it was a "problematic" charity.

    http://www.charitynavigator.org/

    And Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group, said “It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons.”
     
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  20. Joe Fan

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    Here is a little secret audio of Hillary at a private fundraiser revealing what she really thinks about the 2nd Amendment

     
  21. Clean

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    You dig up some amazing stuff Joe Fan. Keep it going.
     
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  22. Horn6721

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    NJ
    Joe Fan's link seem to suggest the Clinton Foundation is not the "beneficial" charity you suggest. We know what happened in Haiti
    Do you have some links or examples of where the CF has done good,in comparison to the really large amounts of money foreign governments give it?
     
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  23. Joe Fan

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    Hillary likes a wall around her home (goes completely around the entire compound)
    And men with guns to prevent anyone from immigrating inside

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  26. AustinBat

    AustinBat 2,500+ Posts

    I am totally shocked that very few of these videos and stories have been reported by the Clinton News Network and other "mainstream media" outlets. Too bad they are working so hard to get her elected - what I really am looking for in a President is someone with seizures and increasing dementia. Of course they can always put Valerie Jarrett in as HRC's Chief of Staff and she can continue to run the country. That may be the deal Obama made with HRC- truly a third BO term. She pulls all the strings and is the reason why BO has been able to play so much golf.
     
  27. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    I don't have time to rebut in detail, but the 10% number is what the foundation donates to other charities. They also spend 70+% on their own charitable projects. Between 10% and 20%, iirc, is spent on administration and fundraising. The benchmark for a reputable charity is 25%.
     
  28. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    The Charity Navigator warning was based on concerns about improprieties, which (as I said before) are legitimate concerns. It had nothing to do with whether the charity does legitimate work as a charity. Link.

    The other major charity-rating organization, Charity Watch!, gives the Clinton Foundation an A. Link.
     
  29. iatrogenic

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    The Bill Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation is an absolute joke. According to this, the worst charity in America spent 68% of its revenues on admin expenses:

    The worst charity in America was:
    1. American Tract Society

    https://www.mainstreet.com/article/20-worst-charities-america/page/7

    Per the link to the 2013 tax return of the foundation provided by Joe Fan (http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/311/580/2013-311580204-0b0083da-9.pdf), the Clinton foundation raised $148million in 2013. It did nothing with $64,204,945 of the gifts.

    It only distributed $8,865,053 in grants and assistance during the year ($5.4mm in the U.S. ($2mm of which went to another Hillary organization) and $3.4mm in foreign countries). The remaining $75,819,442 went to expenses, including $29,914,108 in salaries and benefits. It spent more on conferences and meetings ($9.2mm), and about the same amount on travel ($8.4mm) as it did on charitable donations.

    Therefore, 89.5% of the amount the foundation actually did something with went to expenses such as salary, benefits and travel for the staff. Of course, the staff consists of Bill, Hillary, Chelsea, and their friends who are Directors.

    That would make this "Charity" the worst in America by far.


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  30. iatrogenic

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    Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign on Friday released her 2015 tax return, which showed that she and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, donated roughly 9 percent of that year’s income to charity, around $1.1 million.

    While that may sound generous to some, it was pointed out by Mediaite that about 96 percent of that total went to one particular “charity,” where of course the donation was written off by the Clintons on their personal income tax return.

    The charity in question? None other than the Clinton’s own Clinton Foundation, a tax-exempt charity that has been alleged to be little more than a money-laundering slush fund to be used for the enrichment of the Clintons and their friends and allies.
     

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