Grant Teaff?

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  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Talking to a Baylor alum yesterday. He was saying he thinks BU athletics are back to the days of Grant Teaff who ran a clean program.
    I kinda remember that as not being completely true but not sure.
    Was he St Grant? Ok so I mixed up 2 religions.
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  2. yelladawgdem

    yelladawgdem 2,500+ Posts

    They were the dirtiest team in the league. Ask any Horn that played in that era and they will tell you of twisted ankles, stepped on fingers, what we now call targeting. The media loved him and he made good copy. And the SWC was desperate for good copy at the time. (Apparently Fred winning 80% of his games, not cheating, and playing defense didn't fall in that category). He clearly could coach and could get a lot out of players, although they always seemed to lose a game that spoiled a really special season. And SWC officials were sucking farts outta his *** for two decades.

    But I'm not bitter, and that's what is really important. I was not a fan.


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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    yes Now I remember
    The Baylor alums don't care about that
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  4. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    I got up this morning and attended the 915 church service at a Baptist Church, which is predominately A&M and OU.

    I have tried to collect my thoughts and be kind. The Baylor people do believe that Teaff walks on water, and I assure them he does as long as there is a hardwood floor 2-6 inches below the surface.

    Why did his starting FB transfer to SFA?

    Has any school ever had a S&C coach with a more appropriate name?
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  5. Chop

    Chop 2,500+ Posts

    Yeah. Anyone can walk on water when the pond is frozen over.

    He was an above average coach for an average team. What I didn't like was his last game against us. That featured the most biased officiating I've seen.
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  6. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

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  7. Orangeyman

    Orangeyman 100+ Posts

    100% agree. The worst call I have ever seen (in person) an official make was UT Vs, BU in Teaff's final game against us. The refs were DEFINITELY biased toward Teaff.
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  8. txhorn_et

    txhorn_et 250+ Posts

    Wasn't a fan, but after listening to him speak at my HS Athletic Banquet in 1969, and afterward watching him stop at the local Billups and buy a 6 pack of beer, I figure he must have been an ok guy outside view of the Deacons.
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  9. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    He did more with less. Sort of like Patterson.
    He also provoked one of my favorites from Coach Royal, who referred to “the recent unpleasantness in Waco”
  10. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So except for the refs throwing his last game he was an more or less OK?
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  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    His players liked him, the Baylor crowd loved him
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I learned that.
    I only viewed him through Horn lenses
    But maybe he was a mostly good guy??
  13. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

    If my memory holds (and no one bet even a penny on that) I believe the 92' Baylor game was the only time I heard Mackovic pierce the veil so to speak and comment on officiating. It's okay though. He punched their **** in for the next 5 years but I do find it interesting that his tenure as coach was bookended by losses to Baylor.
  14. yelladawgdem

    yelladawgdem 2,500+ Posts

    You are correct on the 1992 game. And two years later when the ags were on probation, again, we played at Waco on Thanksgiving morning at some horrible time, like 10:30am. Mackovic left James Brown and all of the starting offense in the game with us up 56-35 very late in the game, winning 63-35. When asked afterwards about the appearance of running up the score on Baylor, he sort of half smiled, and told the reporter to refer the question to the Baylor staff and asked for the next question. Teaff was already gone by then, but he had made his point. I was pretty much a Mackovic apologist after that!!

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  15. FWHORN

    FWHORN 5,000+ Posts

    I was at that game in '94 and yes Mackovick was running up the score with a purpose. That '92 game was beyond outrageous for how the refs decided baylor was going to win no matter what.
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  16. Texanne

    Texanne 5,000+ Posts

    Baylor wasn’t clean by any means under Teaff. I used to be close with a player who had been one of Dave Campbell’s superlatives and was recruited very heavily by Teaff. At the time, Baylor didn’t have (and may still not have, I don’t know) an athletic dorm, so offering a recruit an apartment was no violation. But the pickup, stereo, Stetson, cash, and handmade cowboy boots that Teaff himself offered to my friend - while sitting in my friend’s living room - sure were.

    But the NCAA didn’t care. They had their “shining example,” and nothing could tarnish it.

    I wished my friend had taken Baylor’s stuff before he signed elsewhere, thereby pre-Dickersoning Dickerson. But he didn’t.
  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I think that is exactly right. They looked the other way.
    And believe me there are plenty that still think he is a saint.
    Does your friend regret doing the right thing?
  18. Texanne

    Texanne 5,000+ Posts

    I lost contact with him years ago, but I think he was happy with his decision not at attend Baylor. He was not especially with where he went, though.

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