How Do We Turn This Ship Around?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by dukesteer, Nov 20, 2021.

  1. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    You can argue over the hiring of Sark, but Herman was an invasive cancer that had to go.
     
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  2. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I say we let the Titanic sink and build a new ship.
     
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  3. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 1,000+ Posts

    You make a lot of really good points as to the leadership, culture changes (some of them the population mix of a growing Austin. When I was a kid you couldn’t swing a dead cat around in a room full of people without hitting a diehard UT fan.) and failure to utilize staffing that bleeds orange. These issues have been a downward spiral for many years. But the decline in football started with the failure to transition Mack out of the job, and then the hiring of Strong because bad leadership got caught with their pants down with nobody to hire. Mack, the great coach that he had been, was burned out and owed it to himself and the University to transition out. If not, good management would have made it happen. But the limp D- - ks we had screwed the pooch. It’s called succession planing in the business world, where your job depends on it. (See Stoops to Riley.)

    I think Sark gets us moving in the right direction by replacing some personnel problems, and if he is not trending right in a few years, we should have a qualified list of candidates, and should start building the list now. One thing for sure, recruiting will not improve by calling for his head and threatening to fire him now. This is not a quick turnaround.
     
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I think it all went downhill with the "Head Coach In Waiting" thing.

    Full left rudder. Turn it around.
     
  5. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    I don’t know how you could possibly have surmised that from anything I have said in the past. In fact can read my posts from that time frame and see I was afraid Sarkisian was a panic hire and seemed like a lateral move.
    Don’t let that stop you from assuming things though
     
  6. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Chinstrap you made me think of when that place on 6th street, not there anymore darn I can’t remember name, Longhorn Saloon or something they used to stop and play the ‘Eyes’ every hour or so and Everyone would sing. Good times.
     
  7. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    • I think we need better OL, not all new

    Texas Report Card: PFF grades from the West Virginia loss
    our highest rated offensive players on PFF were OL...
    1. Andrej Karic (LT): 81.5
    2. Jake Majors (C): 74.0
    • i think we need upgrades everywhere on defense.
    if we're only going to rush 3-4 guys, we need guys who are sack monsters. sure, everyone wants those, but in our scheme we just gotta.

    • our QBs can't cut it

    • we need at least one receiver with stickum on his hands.
     
  8. FWHORN

    FWHORN 10,000+ Posts

    RECRUITING

    That is all.
     
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  9. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The question of whether Herman would or would not have performed better misses the point to me. Because I think a bunch of what you're seeing this year is what would have been hidden by another year with Tom. We would have gotten another year of seven or eight wins (probably eight), everyone would have been "comfortable" and able to do what they've been doing with little change. And that would have been the path forward. The attitudes that have shown themselves this year when adversity really hit have always been there - the requirements of a new staff and different levels of expectation have brought a bunch of things out that needed to be flushed if we ever want to get out of the middle of the bell curve in this program. Recruiting would have continued to be a bunch of highly recruited guys who don't necessarily fill the needs of the roster. Attrition would have kept churning. We'd keep hearing the same "this is a really young roster" every year like we have.

    Something had to change. Maybe this is the root canal we needed.

    In terms of how it gets fixed... I do know that it doesn't get fixed firing another head coach after two years, starting over and bringing in another flash hire. The program needs consistency and it needs player development and it needs consistent teaching on skills and schemes. We can beat our chests all day about how "we're Texas and we should be able to win right now," but that's why we're in this position.

    It's probably oversimplistic to say that any one thing is the issue. I think it's pretty clear that we have a DC who is determined to run HIS scheme and hope that his players will buy in and/or figure out how to play it. he either doesn't have the personnel to run it (which I think is pretty evident) or doesn't have assistants capable of teaching it. (Based on the way this team plays zone and fails at run fits consistently, that has to be part of the issue too unless you have guys who are flat-out refusing to do what they're told to do.)

    The offensive issues are a lot easier to fix, and they start with a functional two-deep at offensive line. When you can't pull a lineman for making a drive-killing mistake because you don't have anyone else to plug in that's competent, you can't play winning football consistently. An upgrade on the line, one more playmaker at receiver and some seriously psychological counseling for the QB room (seriously... I get Casey is playing with a bad thumb, but I don't buy that's the issue right now) and this team is where we thought it should be this year on offense.

    I expect that we'll see PK fire some assistants (not Bo Davis) and bring in his own guys. (No, I'm not saying PK is the guy and I'm confident in him, but he didn't just become an incompetent coach once he arrived here. He's had success and he gets to at least put the people in place that he believes will make his system work.) I expect you'll see improvement on offense with a better line (that has actually shown signs of improvement, sort of...) and I'm hoping that Card might just be able to snap out of his funk after the last game. With a competent defense (and yes, that may be a couple of years away,) I have no doubt Sark can field an offense that will make us competitive for championships within two years.

    The process is not going to be pretty. It will be better next year, but many will be saying that "seven wins isn't enough, it's the same old stuff, fire him and start over." But we're going to have to live through that if we ever want to get this thing back where it ought to be.
     
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  10. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Good assessment.

    While I will be one of those claiming that “seven wins isn’t enough,” at least for me seven should get him to Year 3. That is, unless we are blown out by anyone other than Alabama. Blowouts = reassessment.

    To me showing “real progress” would be “at least” nine wins, and 8 will be my Mendoza line. (8 in the regular season.)

    Using this year and 5-7 or 4-8 is an accommodation or starting point that I am not willing to concede.
     
  11. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I think that's probably fair. We'll see how realistic it is, because I'm concerned that this rebuilding project is a lot deeper than we would like. A lot of it to me will depend on how/why we lost. The reality is that the Big XII (at least to my eyes) is much better than anyone gave it credit this year. Texas played a stretch of teams in a row this year that I don't think many people thought would be as tough as it may prove to be.

    For me I think it will be about how they handle adversity, do they improve, are they making the same mistakes that they made this year, does the defense still look lost, etc... I don't know what that looks like in wins and losses but I don't think any of us are going to be OK with a 7-win season next year. That's minimum progress IMO.
     
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  12. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Great post Htown77.
    Especially regarding the people running the athletics department and the University.
    If I wanted to live in California, I would move there. Same for Yankee states most of hires are coming from in the Athletic department.
    I will add they take the Longhorn generations of fans for granted.

    The problem started last year when the feckless President and Athletic Director totally mishandled the mutiny of malcontents and a child coach.
    Until what happened last year is dealt with properly, this team is toast.

    Sark was the head coach at two power schools and went 46-35. Past performance for the most part is a great predictor of future performance. He didn’t get better, he got worse.
    Sark is mediocre and at best is a placeholder that can be used to accomplish a player cleanup getting rid of the malcontents. He will of course need the help of a feckless administration which will probably not happen, but we are opining about what is needed to turn it around.
    I would say next year should be his last year as head coach, again in order to turn this around.

    I bought season tickets to UTSA and bought individual Texas tickets to games I wanted to go to.

    If you want to see a real football coach, watch Traylor. He doesn’t have great talent, but he can damn sure coach.
    I opine to turn this around, let Sark clean up the malcontents, recruit above average talent and hire Traylor for the 2023 season.

    I also agree with Htown on the sterile environment. I remember tailgating under the pecan trees behind Louie’s, then going to the Exes center to meet more friends.

    Sad to see our own exes center contracted out.
     
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