how does iowa pass texas in the bcs?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by tamster, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    As someone else pointed out, the math for this scenario is simple. Human polls count twice as much, so if Texas is roughly one spot ahead in the human polls and Iowa is roughly two spots ahead in the computer polls, then it is a dead heat in the BCS between Texas and Iowa.So the simple scenario is:
    Human Polls

    1. Florida
    2. Texas
    3. Iowa

    Computer Polls

    1. Iowa
    2. Florida
    3. Texas

    Now you may be of the opinion
    that this won't happen. But you cannot say it is not possible or even not plausible. Iowa has the strongest projected schedule strength of the three teams, and Texas has the weakest.

    Some seem to think it is impossible for Iowa to get virtually all of the #3 votes in the human polls. First, you cannot predict that as a certainty. If Iowa finishes undefeated as a Big 10 team, the human polls may very well bump them higher. All they have to do is put them in front of all the 1-loss teams as well as the mid-majors. Second, there is also no certainty that Texas will be no worse than 3rd in any of the computers. Texas may very well finish 4th or lower in a couple of the computers.

    If Iowa wins out, I sure hope we look pretty in our remaining games.
     
  2. LonghornGirlie

    LonghornGirlie 500+ Posts


     
  3. ProdigyDub

    ProdigyDub 500+ Posts


     
  4. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts


     
  5. ProdigyDub

    ProdigyDub 500+ Posts


     
  6. LonghornGirlie

    LonghornGirlie 500+ Posts

    The question is one of relative computer strength. If playing a game can be MORE detrimental to a team relative to another team having a bye, my logic stands. Given the weakness of the Big XII north, I'm not at all certain that playing in that game will work in our favor relative to Iowa's bye.
     
  7. ProdigyDub

    ProdigyDub 500+ Posts

    Well that's obviously true, but that's exactly what I said also, in different words.

    I really don't think, as bad as the Big XII North is, that beating the best of the bunch will HURT Texas relative to Iowa. It may not provide a huge gain or anything, but it's not like we'll be beating UCF at home. It will be a neutral site game (which I think at least some of the computers consider as more valuable than a home game) against a major-conference team with a winning record.
     
  8. IPLonghorns

    IPLonghorns 250+ Posts

    GAWD Dang I need a beer!
    [​IMG]
     
  9. LonghornGirlie

    LonghornGirlie 500+ Posts


     
  10. LonghornGirlie

    LonghornGirlie 500+ Posts

    Dub, I think we agree. The only point that I was trying to make is that extra games is not automatically a plus in the computers. It matters who you play. Iowa will see their biggest gain (if they win) during Ohio State week. If they do not jump over Florida in one of those 4 computers that week, it will be a good thing.

    The numbers are just close enough for Iowa that I'm a bit uneasy. That's the only thing I'm trying to say.
     
  11. dthree36

    dthree36 500+ Posts

    we have a conference championship game that will boost us over Iowa even if they win out. Given the reputation of the Big 10 the last few years... I think Iowa needs to stop having come from behind wins and shut out their last 3 opponents if they to have any shot.
     
  12. NativeTXchic

    NativeTXchic 1,000+ Posts

    Florida and Texas in the NC game..... no more questions, ifs, ands, or buts...... that's the way it's gonna be people!!! Everyone knows Texas travels well to bowl games, and I'm sure Florida will too!!! Enuf said!!!
     
  13. Deguello

    Deguello 100+ Posts

    If only exclamation points and traveling could translate into votes.
     
  14. YoLaDu

    YoLaDu Guest

    i love talking football. Wait..

    Remember football? That game they play with the oblong ball.
     
  15. Lidig8r

    Lidig8r 250+ Posts

    Where's SynTex and his magic analysis when you need him?
     
  16. ProdigyDub

    ProdigyDub 500+ Posts


     
  17. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts


     
  18. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts


     
  19. iowahorn11

    iowahorn11 100+ Posts

    Iowa will lose to OSU.

    /thread
     
  20. Orangesweat

    Orangesweat 2,500+ Posts

    I know of a way, but I can't tell anyone what it is as it's an Ancient Chinese Secret. [​IMG]
     
  21. Lamp

    Lamp 250+ Posts

    If voters saw this possibility becoming more likely as the last few weeks passed, wouldn't they simply vote Texas #1 and Florida #2 to keep Iowa out? The article in the Des Moine paper someone linked basically said that the human voters are all saying that Iowa sucks. So wouldn't the national media start trumpeting the fact that Iowa could jump Texas and consequently cause voters to correct this possibility by simply flipping Texas and Florida?
     

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