'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Namewithheld, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    Definitely racist and probably homophobic as well.
     
  2. Creek

    Creek 500+ Posts

    Climate change is so 1990's, by now Houston was supposed to be Galveston lol.
     
  3. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Global warming propaganda started approx 40 years ago. The climate has been good for mankind since that time AND mankind has been better on the environment since that time. Plus, there has been unprecedented economic growth and improvements in standard of living on a global basis that has slowed down population growth. The world excluding Africa will hit peak population by 2040.
     
  4. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  5. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    All Republicans had to do when they won the election in 2016 was to hold the line on the budget bill they helped pass in 2011 with control of just one branch of government.

    Instead, first with control of all three branches and now with control of two of the three, they are about to undo the one spending success of the past decade, and with it, pre-empt any leverage they have to pressure Democrats on a single issue.

    Why is it that not a single mile of newfencing has been constructed for Trump’s entire term? Why is it that we’ve spent billions taking 21,000 sick illegal aliens to the hospital, chewing up 250,000 man-hours of Border Patrol at hospitals and away from patrolling, yet not a penny more was spent on Border Patrol or the military holding the line against the cartel smuggling?

    Look no further than the budget deals Trump signed over and over again, which collectively increased discretionary spending by 16 percent but not a dime for new border walls or deportations. He gave away his leverage for free. Now, with Trump agreeing to the deal Senate Republicans and his treasury secretary just forged, the total spending binge will rise to 20 percent above fiscal year 2017 levels and will still not include a dime for the border.

    GOP repeals the entire legacy of the Tea Party in one fell swoop
     
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba 1,000+ Posts

    To be fair, the Tea Party went to poop and the hogs ate 'em on 1/20/2017.
     
  7. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Did I just witness the world's worst and most transparent attempt to hijack a thread?
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  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    It might be, but the Broken Clock is right this time.
     
  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Yes. Trump killed the Tea Party. Most Tea Partiers aren't even aware.
     
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  10. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I'm not sure I understand why any kind of sidestepping is necessary. If automakers want to produce a more fuel efficient care, they're free to do that. They don't need a regulation to do it.
     
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  12. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  13. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

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  14. UTChE96

    UTChE96 1,000+ Posts

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  15. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

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  16. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    So he's saying they might have to install air conditioners in a couple years? Oh the horror!!! As mild as it has been in Austin this year I for one would be happy to shift the heat up north for the next few decades. This has been a nice break on my electric bill.

    It was 62 degrees at my house yesterday morning during a time of year it rarely goes below 78 degrees overnight and as soon as the sun crosses the horizon it's normally 90+ by 10-11am. As much as it sucks for them this has been fantastic for me.
     
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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Here in Germany it has been ridiculously hot. It reached 105 yesterday, and we're expected to reach 99 today, and of course, when it's like that, nobody distinguishes between climate and weather like they do when it's unseasonably cold. They all blame it on climate change.

    Fortunately, it's going to cool down.

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  18. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    That sucks with AC. I bet a lot of folks are spending more time in their cars blasting the cold air?

    Wow, a 27 degree drop in high temp literally overnight. And at the same time we will be going back up to near 100. Thanks a lot global warming.
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Most people are staying inside or going to grocery stores which have AC. (At $7 per gallon, few are joyriding just for the AC.) The houses are different here. Even though they don't have AC, at least the modern homes are very well insulated and have rolladens, which can block out almost all of the sunlight. Furthermore, they have a window in the ceiling to release heat if it does build up. If you do all that and turn up all the fans, it's at least tolerable - probably mid 70s inside. However, we do have an AC unit that can cool one room if it gets too hot. However, we didn't even have to turn it on yesterday when it reached 105. In fact, we haven't turned it on in 3 years.

    The people who really have it tough are the military families that live on base. Those places aren't as well equipped and get very hot. They have to buy AC units to make it tolerable.
     
  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Here is a house down the street from ours. You'll notice that the windows are totally covered. That's the rolladens. They make a huge difference.

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  21. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    C'mon Deez. The point isn't to reduce emissions. The point is to get regulations passed that you are better at passing than your competition. If the car company just wanted to "improve" the environment they would. But now their competition gets squeezed. It is called Rent Seeking or Government Capitalism. It is the thing everybody hates but call Capitalism or the Free Market.
     
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  22. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Sounds like an opportunity for a company to take advantage of in the Southern US.
     
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Deez you hit it on the head. As soon as there is a heat wave for 2-3 days, it is followed by a week (or more) of cool weather. Anyone in Houston would trade places with you in a heartbeat, even if home only as a small window unit for the master bedroom or kitchen.

    57F at night. LOL
     
  24. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Yes, look up Demilac- sprayed on PU insulation for homes and businesses.
     
  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Not likely. I said doing all that with the house makes it "tolerable" not comfortable. It's only worth the trouble, effort, and expense (which is substantial) here because energy is ridiculously expensive here. When I tell Americans it's expensive, they don't get it. They think that means it's like California. It's not. The per kw/h rate is about triple what it is in Texas, and there are literally a few pages of fees and taxes including 60 Euros per month (not per year, per month) to "promote green energy." No ****. I pay 60 Euros per month - not for energy but to promote green energy. With costs like that, people will do pretty much anything to hold down energy use.

    In addition, there's a cultural difference over here. To a German, the worst thing in the world is to be cold. I've stayed at B&Bs in the middle of the summer, and the hosts will make sure I know how to turn on the heat even though doing so would be out of the question for me. If it's below 70 degrees, you'll see plenty of people wearing scarfs. In addition, they're suspicious and borderline phobic of air conditioning. They'll seek it out if it's really hot, but they do it as little as possible. They don't like that it dries out the air. They think it makes them more susceptible to colds, flus, etc. For example, yesterday Mrs. Deez sent me to her chiropractor because my mid-back was a little sore. She had AC in the room which was nice, but on several occasions she said to me, "if it's too dry, I can turn off the air conditioning." It was 105 outside.

    Texans aren't going to go for this unless the cost of energy gets so high that they can't afford air conditioning. Adopt the Green New Deal (or do what Germany's doing which is radical but not anywhere near that radical), and they might.
     
  26. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    The worst time to visit Europe is just before the heat is turned off for good. Otherwise, you are sweating to death when it is only 60-70F outside. This includes public spaces like airports, trains, buildings. It also carries over to airplanes because people have been trained to have the heat on since October.
     
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  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    That's about right. This particular heat wave started on Sunday, so it has been going on longer than most. However, it always cools down. Like you said, it's usually 2 - 3 days, and then it'll drop back into the 70s or even 60s. In addition, once July is over, the heat waves are usually gone. It rarely gets too hot in August, and of course, September and early October are glorious. Still sunny but usually in the 60s during the day, and of course, the festivals start - pumpkin festivals, chestnut festivals, and of course, Oktoberfest.
     
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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    I hate you.
     
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  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I agree. Honestly, I encourage people to visit during the mid-fall and mid-spring. It's very comfortable and far less crowded than during the summer. If you're prepared for the cold, late November - December are pretty great too because the Christmas markets are absolutely magical. I even display my gluhwein mugs from all the different cities whose markets I've attended. lol

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  30. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I really am a lucky SOB. I live in a nice home in a beautiful location with great weather most of the time, have easy access to great food and booze, and I don't even have to work. I'm pretty much a kept man. I stay pretty busy and volunteer for the troops, but it's pretty much a dream life.
     

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