'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Namewithheld, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    The lights went out. Now California might let these gas plants stay open

    “We cannot sacrifice reliability as we move forward in this transition,” Newsom said last week, as he urged Californians to use less electricity to avoid the need for more rolling blackouts. “We’re going to be much more aggressive in focusing our efforts and our intention in making sure that is the case.”

    "We failed to predict and plan [for] these shortages, and that’s simply unacceptable," the governor added."

    They failed to plan because the zealots do not care about ordinary people. They say they do; but they don't. When politics takes over, YOU FAIL TO PLAN.
     
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  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    When they keep voting in these buffoons, they ought to plan to fail.
     
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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    This explains it:

    Thorstein Veblen’s Theory of the Leisure Class—A Status Update - Quillette
     
  4. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    From that article: “ not least because they know that the adoption of those policies will cost them less than others.”

    that is what I believe is the reason for the affluent (ultra affluent) promotion of insane policies - 90% tax rates and Green New Deal.
     
  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Global warming in Europe. Low of 51 F in Paris next week.

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  6. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    I would love a low of 59 about now. Even more on the 12th.
     
  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Low of 64F next Wednesday. Close enough?
     
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  8. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Global warming in Europe:
    Low of 49F to start September
     
  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    We're there now. I had to use my defroster two days ago.

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  10. humahuma

    humahuma 250+ Posts

    My father was stationed just outside of Bury Saint Edmonds during WWII. There is a bar close to the college where Americans use to carve their names on the ceiling. His old air tower is a museum.
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Do you know what the tower is called?
     
  12. humahuma

    humahuma 250+ Posts

    Rougham air field
     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Wow. It looks cool. I'll be visiting!
     
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  14. humahuma

    humahuma 250+ Posts

    Yep that’s it. The ball gunner and my father wrote about each one of their missions over Germany, I created a word document and sent it to the museum.
     
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  15. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Wow, my dad was in the 8th army air corps and flew in and out of England too. Wonder if he was ever there - damn you’re making me emotional, sorry.
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We need to spray the entire state of California with whatever is in this bottle

     
  17. 4th_floor

    4th_floor From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta.

    I wonder if it's Halon?
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Industrial Grade Ozium?
     
  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Whatever it is like Joe says
    Use it now in Ca
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Lace it into vapor trails so those folks can claim they were right
     
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  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Those are "chemtrails" and pilots like hic are in on the plot.
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He leaves a vapor trail as he walks
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It's antifa/BLM with matches, not climate change

     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Interesting that the dude with matches didn't try to overwhelm a female with a gun but others will fight police
     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "I Am Groot" got much better ratings


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  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    0D69C3E2-D36A-4D60-9836-1B78E3FA3E25.jpeg With widespread adoption of gen 3/4 nuclear, US could be <10% global CO2 emissions.
     
  28. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    That's an informative graph, but US, Europe, India and China apparently add up only to 68%, so there could be another line of 32%, up there above China, that represented the rest of the world. The point being how very little even a 10% decrease in our CO2 output would have on the world.

    So, for example, if we even cut 50% of our output--surely a complete destruction of our economy under current conditions--that would cut the world output by 6%. So, if man-made global warming even accounted for half of the observed warming (which factor is purely a guess by ANYONE, as any honest person has to admit) our all-in economic self-destruction would cut global warming effect by 3%, so that instead of a 1 degree-per-century rise in temperatures, we might have fended off .03 degrees by the year 2120.

    Oh, heck, why not really go all-in? If all 300 million Americans just committed suicide, by 100 years from now, we will have fended off .06 degrees. That would probably satisfy someone, although even the polar bears would never be able to detect a temperature difference, even with a thermometer.
     
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  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that. Wind energy has no wide spread, industrial use at this point.
     
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