'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

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  1. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

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  2. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    So the argument is pick the worst combustion engine and pretend that's the choice? Hyrid over a 350? What kind of an argument is that? It's disingenuous.
     
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  3. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Then compare the hybrid with the v6 buick that I used to drive. I loved it. It got 22 mpg.
     
  4. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Recently listened to “unobtanium” from PragerU. Kinda condescending (probably wrong discription) but interesting report on fallacy of wind and solar being considered legitimate replacement energy sources for petroleum. Fools gold.
     
  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Prager is condescending to me as well.
     
  6. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Yeah I’m sure the facts are accurate but the speaker gave me the impression on numerous occasions he was talking to 6th graders. Not that that isn’t appropriate for me but still.,,,
     
  7. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Btw, sorry you’ve still got symptoms but guess that’s not a bad one to have if you’re going to have any. I would tell you to take HCQ but don’t want a poop emoji, even if you cannot smell it. :hookem:
     
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  8. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I tested positive on 10/11. I felt weak for a few days after the meds wore off. I didn’t figure out the smell thing until last week.
     
  9. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Meanwhile in oklahoma..........
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  10. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    Nice warm balmy 15 deg at my house this morning. Good to know these scientists know what they're talking about.
     
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  11. erbutch

    erbutch 500+ Posts

    My cows just wont listen. They just keep making gas and messing up the climate. It is 17 degrees out there and it wasnt for them it would be 16. Maybe Biden can help me,he knows about manure.
     
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  12. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I don't know the comparison. The construction, life of the vehicle, batteries etc versus an average car would be the analysis. Of course it looks better as compared to a Hummer... "That's what she said."
     
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  13. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    For many places in this country:

    Electric car = Mostly a coal powered car
     
  14. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

  15. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Does the coal power required to run a hybrid daily contribute less bad things to the environment than a typical gasoline powered vehicle? I thought you guys were experts?
     
  16. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Coal is generally much more pollutive than gas.
     
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  17. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Define "bad things". I believe it is settled science that man made climate change is a joke.
     
  18. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    It really depends on the design of the coal plant. An old lignite coal plant without the latest scrubbers/ESPs/etc would have more pollutants/kw than a gasoline vehicle. Not many old plants left. A lot of the lignite plants are closed. A newer plant using low S coal with ESPs and other pollution control would likely have lower pollutant/kw.
    Before you tell me I'm full of ou, consider that a power plant is producing power from the coal to provide power to thousands of customers. The automobile is only producing enough power to move a single car. The power plant is producing electricity much more efficiently than the car.
    Even though most hybrids get the majority of their power from a small gasoline engine, the hybrid would produce less pollutants than a non-hybrid.
    But Bubba, before you scoot away in your Prius with a high and mighty attitude, consider all of the rare earth metals needed to manufacture your car. How much pollution was released by the Chinese REM supplier and did they use slave labor to produce it?
     
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  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    4th
    I notice when you explain with facts Bubba has no response.
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Ketchup Boy has moved Al Gore's goalposts to 2030
    And he will not give up private jets until the very end



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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  22. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Sorry Leonard but if ice ages came and went with "clockwork regularity" there would be planning.
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Plus or minus every 100k years. Depends on your definition of clock, as in hours, months, years, decades, millennia, etc.
     
  25. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    One thing never fails, every popular lie always has a celebrity (or celebrities) pushing it.
     
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    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

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  27. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    When I was in about the 8th grade which would have been about 37 years ago or 1984ish I went to Daytona Beach after hearing from teachers tell me how the coast lines would be under water soon so we better enjoy them. I loved playing beach volley ball and remembered looking at the beach from my balcony thinking how sad it would be on my next trip in a couple years not having a beach. Well guess what, that beach is pretty much exactly the same 37 years later, but they've been spreading these lies for the last 60+ years or even more?

    People who fall for this crap makes me laugh. People who continue to spew this crap makes me mad.
     
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  28. DKRoyal fan

    DKRoyal fan 100+ Posts

    Agree 100% Vol Horn
     
  29. EDT

    EDT 1,000+ Posts

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  30. utahorn

    utahorn 500+ Posts

    I remember in the late 80's / early 90's reading that the Amazon Rain Forest (Lungs of the planet) would be gone by 2000.

    I believe in responsible stewardship but don't lie to me or try to scare people. Create enough lies and distortions and no one with any sense will believe you. THAT will undermine your message. Hello AOC.
     
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