Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    He has a picture of Barry Switzer as identifying who he is. He can’t “be better.” He can only lie, cheat and steal like his mentor.
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  2. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Barry banged his assistant coach's wife. Larry Lacewell. Larry was the guy who spied on Royal's practice and saw Texas putting in a quick kick. Which means he was committed to the cause and truly loyal to Barry.

    Barry is one of the worst human beings to exist. Sandusky was worse.
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  3. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I don’t get what I’m seeing. All I just seen was a liar and his videos of past non-sense edited to not see how foolish they looked under cross examination.
  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Stephen Castor, Counsel for the Republicans, in his opening statement just said what I have been saying.

    "...they'll try to convince you that the Trump Administration, the same Administration the Democrats regularly accuse of being incompetent, orchestrated an international conspiracy at the highest levels. None of this adds up."

    Thank you, Mr. Castor, not that it will matter for libtards. But he's right. How can Trump and his minions be such blundering fools yet organize something they say happened? Mind boggling.
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  5. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Treason is not even a consideration to me. In my opinion, that kind of an accusation is a clear indication of emotional impairment.

    If you want to go there, then I'd say the Liberal policy concerning illegal immigrants to be treason. It's much more of a problem to our country in a negative way than zero DIRECT evidence of Trump saying investigate Biden or else I will withhold funds.

    I suggest some wine, a sunset and an assessment as to why this means so much to you personally that you are unable to see the real problem, which is blind loyalty to charlatans.
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Two things.

    I have the Barry picture in an ironic way on this site. I did it for Texas week years ago, I think, and I kept it. Barry was a great coach and salesman but a flawed man. He and Lacewell are still friendly, I believe. I'll stay out of their bedroom. All I know is that our HS QB/PG/3rd Baseman was a backup in Norman. His dad was a coach and he was at church every time it was open. He literally did no wrong, ever. He thought highly of Barry and dated his daughter for a bit.

    I don't think treason is a big leap. The way that the GOP is now parroting the talking points of Vlad and how many of DJT's actions sync up with what Putin would want is disconcerting. The Ukrainian angle is just a great example. I think a bribe to benefit yourself and potentially damage the interests of your country is treasonous.
  7. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Let's get DJT under oath and see what happens. I think his lawyers call it a perjury trap.
  8. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    1) In this instance, I would think someone who goes to church consistently and forgives a highly flawed man is a good Christian but is possibly compromised by the pathology that strikes so many fan bases concerning college football. Is the forgiveness because of Jesus or victory?

    2) I believe 100% that the Liberal policy of enabling illegal immigration to be about political benefit. So what's worse? Their policy or what Trump did (and you can't dodge Biden's clear corruption in getting his loser son a job) without direct evidence?
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    So asking a foreign government to investigate corruption is "Election Interference."
    But trying to impeach a president right before an election is not?
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is it. Treason carries a death penalty. They dont just want 2016 undone, they are so filled with hate they want Trump dead. As Lewandowski said, "They hate Trump more than they love this country."

  11. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    What gets me is the assumption by the Dems that an investigation into Biden, son and VP, would yield no corruption therefore this request for investigation is, in their assertion, such a felonious request. I mean that is the whole thing, their constant ‘debunk’ is BS. So they are assuming because there was nothing to investigate Trump was out of bounds with the request. It’s all much adieu about nothing. Get on with the country’s business.
  12. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    The word debunk is all over the internet for every accusation I've encountered against the apparently honest (bordering on sainthood and patriotic fervor) Democrats.
  13. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    As I've typed a dozen times in this thread. IF the concern for corruption were valid a) it would be done in a different manner and not only done with an announcement on US TV AND b) concern of corruption in another country, ANY Mother F'n country, would have been expressed in the last 2.5 years (think...ISRAEL)

    Moreover, the prosecutor that Biden and the rest of the western world were trying to remove was NOT after Burisma. So, adding a new prosecutor to the mix was risky if you were concerned about Burisma because you were bringing in an unknown.
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  14. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Let's get real:

    "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is an American immigration policy that allows some individuals with unlawful presence in the United States after being brought to the country as children to receive a renewable two-year period of deferred action from deportation and become eligible for a work permit in the U.S. To be eligible for the program, recipients cannot have felonies or serious misdemeanors on their records. Unlike the proposed DREAM Act, DACA does not provide a path to citizenship for recipients, known as Dreamers.[1][2] The policy, an executive branch memorandum, was announced by President Barack Obama on June 15, 2012. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) began accepting applications for the program on August 15, 2012."

    This executive order was 100% politically motivated. It is a change in the law and the Democrats ran interference for Obama on this.
  15. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

  16. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    70% of Americans support DACA.
  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    You are seriously, not a serious thinker. But you aren't the only Lefty saying this. It isn't a matter of intelligence. It is a matter of people turning off their critical thinking skills.
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Do you really think 70% support Illegals with criminal records being allowed to stay under DACA

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  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    So who the hell cares what the law says? If some poll says 70 percent of people want something, then toss out the Constitution and make it happen.
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  20. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    First step would be to charge him with a legitimate crime in a court of law.
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  21. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I do not. I think they think people like veterans that served yet are here under DACA should get citizenship.
  22. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    You beat me to it. That was my point: Obama executed an order that changed the law for political reasons. And it is also my argument that allowing millions of illegal aliens to cross, stay at will and live off of taxpayer money is treason IF he thinks what Trump did is treasonous.
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  23. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    I think they should be allowed to stay. Funny huh? But not by executive order. Trump is supposed to uphold the Constitution aka enforcing EXISTING LAW. Talk to Congress about DACA. That's THEIR job.
  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah, it's a big leap to put it generously. Let's put it this way. If you take the treason allegation seriously, I never want to hear you complain about someone calling Obama a Muslim or saying he was born in Kenya. Those charges were very nutty but far less so than the treason allegation.

    This is coming from someone who voted against Trump because of foreign policy. I'm no hack for him. However, since taking office, we've imposed sanctions on Russia, withdrawn from the INF treaty, given lethal aid to Ukraine, increased the US military presence in Europe, and successfully pushed Western European countries to increase defense spending. None of that is what Putin would want. Have there been stupid moves? Yes. However, on issues of major geopolitical significance, we have not done what Putin would have wanted.
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  25. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    And best I can tell, Obama mocked Mitt Romney for identifying Russia as our number one geopolitical threat, told President Medvedev he would have more flexibility after the election, allowed Russia to annex Crimea and presided over the national security apparatus that completely failed to protect us from Russian hacks.

    That's not disconcerting? Those four things would indicate that Obama was either being completely incompetent or... no... that's good enough: COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT. I won't call it treasonous except for the election part because we have proof (OUT OF HIS MOUTH) that he was playing politics and lying to the American people in order to bolster his PERSONAL AMBITIONS. And if Trump is considered treasonous (though there is zero direct evidence) then Obama is too.

    @OUBubba See how that works?
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  26. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    But, but, Orange Man Putin puppet.
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  27. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    The lethal aid we gave to Ukraine was limited with the armament a few hundred miles from the actual tanks. The sanctions are a smoke screen AFTER the Ukraine dumpster fire.

    NATO has been attacked by this Administration, in sync with Russia.
    Brexit has been hailed, in sync with Russia.
    Russia is against the EU. Trump is as well.
    We inexplicably turned on a dime and sold out the Kurds, giving away Syria to the point that we were bombing our own bases and then the Russians moved into them.

    Then there's this: 25 times Trump was soft on Russia - CNNPolitics
  28. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 2,500+ Posts

    I watched the first 3 hours of today's hearings and just couldn't take it after that. Its so toxic and both sides have an answer/excuse for everything. What a waste of time.
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  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Which is it?

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  30. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Sometimes people's interests align.

    The things you listed are the world Trump inherited.

    Do you like NATO and our financial commitment? Half of Britain is in favor of Brexit. Are they Putin fans?

    I'm glad we're standing up to the EU. They are an impotent group of virtue signaling socialists, able to play their game because of our financial support. They are also the incubator of white privilege, imperialism and some of the most despotic leaders in the history of mankind. Why the love affair with them?

    I don't know enough about the Kurd situation to comment but I seriously doubt Trump is following Putin's lead on this.

    In the end, you're looking for a connection because you're upset that the Mueller Report was a complete fail.
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