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Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.
Frankly we are tired of the BS.
Bubba, how many of these "we got Trump now" stories have we heard that have turned out to be not true? We're burned out.
The difference is that those the Democrats want to testify can and will testify if the Democrats had the willingness to go to court for one friggin hearing. Vince Foster and James McDougal are dead. A subpoena can't bring them back to life. Susan McDougal could have testified, but she was willing to go to jail not to. Not much a subpoena can do about that either.
I don't mind discussing them. They don't look good. However, I have to somewhat question their reliability, because the prosecutors didn't even find them significant enough to prove them up or talk to the relevant people.
I was talking more broadly, but let's look at the call transcript issue. In what sense did it exonerate Trump? It didn't prove Trump's guilt. I agree with that, but I don't see a case that it exonerated him. It was inconclusive.
If you want to rip Adam Schiff for calling a bunch of irrelevant witnesses, I won't argue that point. He put forth about the crappiest effort to prove a case I've ever seen. If I tried to proved cases like he did, I would have been sued for malpractice. However, if he had actually taken the matter seriously and subpoenaed the relevant witnesses, I would not have blamed him.
I believe it did exonerate Trump. They were talking about a specific phone call and we’re in shock when he immediately released the transcript. Then they claimed it wasn’t the whole transcript. So witnesses that “were there” said it was. Then they dropped that and started claiming there was a second phone call and Trump released it. The Ukrainian leader said he didn’t feel like President Trump pressured him. A witness for Schiff testified that Trump said he didn’t want anything and no Quid Pro Quo. I’m not sure how you don’t see that as exonerating himself. Give me an example of what Trump could have done more in your eyes to exonerate himself? So I don’t see how that can be inconclusive.
I know you were talking more broadly and not just about the phone call. Can you give more examples of what else Trump has done that falls in that more broad statement? You said of him and Clinton that they both have done some things. What are those things that are impeachable?
The next election the people will
speak loudly at the ballot box. I’m talking 1984 all over again. Probably minus California and New York though. I guess that will be the President’s exoneration.
Why not buy him one of the 'special edition' impeachment pens off Nancy's PAC fundraiser website, send him one?
Or, perhaps wait for the ceremonial koozie, I am sure those will be sweet
Did anybody see the video of the house Dems walking down the wide halls with the articles of impeachment in an orderly fashion? What a bunch of quacks. Most of America doesn’t care about this and think they are idiots.
Parnes, like Cohen, Stormy, Avenatti and everyone else you've hitched your wagon to in the past, is not who you think he is. He has already been busted on some purported hand-written notes on hotel stationary. He said they were Rudy's but it's already been shown they were in his handwriting. LOL. This move here is just a Michael Cohen repeat.
Poor Bubba burst open the doors pounding his chest for his Ta Da moment only to look around and see there’s no Ta Da.
need vol on
Nancy has to be the most classless Speaker of the House in history. Because Mitch McConnell won't accede to her demands regarding the Senate trial, she implied he too was a Russian agent. There is no boundary she's not willing to cross, no decency in her whatsoever.
The libs are creaming their britches that Yovanovitch was possibly stalked and Ukraine will look into it. Ukraine launches probe into alleged surveillance of former U.S. envoy
She was definitely doing a lot of stalking on her own. Of this, there is no doubt
What was she doing?
She kept tabs on and spied on many - its a long list
JW Investigates if Ousted Ukraine Ambassador Ordered State Dept. to Monitor Journalists, Trump Allies - Judicial Watch
Bubba, not sure if you heard in Oklahoma, but we have these things called presidential elections, which happen every 4 years. Vastly more important than conspiracy theories.
Some people like this one better. I like the Star Wars one best
I think it would be hilarious if they did the wizard of Oz where the witches troops are marching back to the castle “O de O oooooo O”
but I like the Star Wars one too.
From my fingers to Marsha Blackburn's eyes:
Today, Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) gave the following statement regarding the participation of the four Senators running for president in the Senate impeachment trial:
“Tomorrow, one hundred United States Senators will be sworn in to serve in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. Four of those Senators must recuse themselves for their unparalleled political interest in seeing this President removed from office. These four Democrats, Senators Bennet, Klobuchar, Sanders, and Warren, cannot sit in judgment of the very President they seek to replace. To participate in this trial would be a failure of the oath they took to be an ‘impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws’. Their presidential ambitions prohibit their ability to view this trial through an objective lens.” – Senator Marsha Blackburn
I want to see the vids of the GOP holding a "somber" signing ceremony and then the processional walking the signed docs to the Senate.
Is Blackburn another Hornsfan lurker?
It certainly looks that way
Out with it, which one of you is Marsha?
From yesterday morning \/
McSally has major cojones.
Maybe she can loan some to Prince Harry.
She even retweeted it herself -- maybe some of the male R-Senators can borrow her cajones when she doesnt need them?
It is not a transcript. It is a summary. Pompeo declined knowledge of it then it turns out he was on the call. John Bolton referred to it as a drug deal and promptly resigned. He referenced “she’s going to go through some things” after knowing that she was being tracked and stalked. The good news is they declined the opportunity to take care of her or some other mob sounding stuff. Will no one did me of this meddlesome priest?
"Pompeo declined knowledge of it then it turns out he was on the call."
Nancy just released a statement.