Impeachment

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is straight out of the Hillary playbook -- “discredited lies
    Discredited by whom? When? How?
    Why does our media always let them get away with it?
    Isnt there one honest and curious journalist left at any of these places?
     
  2. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

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  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The Firehose of Falsehoods.
     
  4. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Would you say when Kamala, Booker et al jumped on the Jussie modern-day lynching bandwagon that it was a form of firehose falsehoods?
     
  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Ambassador Yovanovich reportedly had a few interesting tidbits. All quotes are from this article.

    1. She was instructed not to testify by the State Dept, essentially ignore the Congressional Subpoena.

    2. She learned in summer 2018 that Trump had lost confidence in her. According to her Superiors she had done nothing wrong.
    3. She pointed the finger at Guiliani and his associates for her ouster.

    #3 isn't a surprise. Wonder what the State Department's response to her will be for refusing their direction? Based on my amateur analysis they seem to be handling her with kid gloves right now. She is still a State Department employee. There was no big pronouncement of her showing up against their direction, no department lawyer in tow.
     
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  6. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Yeah! What about them dems, huh? Betcha didn’t expect that!
     
  7. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, it very well could be. At the very least they were playing on race politics.

    Not sure what that has to do with this topic. While you continue to point out hypocrisy you neglect holding your side accountable which makes your effort part of the problem, not the solution.
     
  8. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    EU Ambassador Sondland has agreed to meet with the Congressional Committees next week, following the committee's subpoena.
     
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  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Can you guess the largest single state donor to the Clinton Foundation?
    With $10 MILLION in contributions?

    Is it China?

    Is it Canada?

    Is it England?

    Is it Russia? (lol)

    Erhm, no

    It's Ukraine! Of course
    Is there a Dem in DC who was not porking out at the Ukraine money trough?
    How many Obama-era officials were feeding at that corrupt trough?
    Perhaps this is the real story here?
    Trump is bringing it all to light and they dont like it
     
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  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Firehose of falshood.
     
  13. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    [​IMG]

    This only covers to 2014. Saudi might have taken lead in 2016. Not sure.
     
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  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The Firehose of Falsehood doesn't say that there isn't a thread of truth. Propaganda requires some thread of truth to be more effective. The Firehose of Falsehood denotes a strategy to spam information across many channels without regard for full truth or consistency to drown out truthful reporting by confusing news consumers.

    This is JoeFans vehicle. It's how he infers Shep Smith has a sexual assault allegation and/or is at risk of being "caught up in the Barr net", whatever that means.

    I used to spend too much time proving JoeFan was ever only giving a propagandists view of news. I proved this so often he blocked me. Now I'll simply point out that the vast majority of information JoeFan posts fits the Firehose of Falsehood strategy perfected by the Russians.
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    According to the UN, Ukraine is 132nd in GDP per capita, behind Bhutan, El Salvador and Sri Lanka. In terms of Europe, they are the poorest, worst than the Baltic states and various part of old Yugoslavia. They still have families there without functioning toilet facilities.

    The last thing they need to be doing is giving the Clintons $10M. And if they did, you can bet it was for a reason other than charity because they already have enough charitable needs on their own
     
  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Wow Ukraine gave the Clintons 10 Million?
    I wonder how the average Ukrainian would feel IF they knew and if they had our freedom of speech?
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The average Ukrainian would prefer working toilets
     
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  18. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts



     
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  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Why didn't Michael Cohen get this kind of treatment?
     
  20. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    From Trump or the media? I'd argue he did from the media. Trump turned his back on him quickly after taking office.
     
  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    From Trump.
     
  22. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    A FARA violation would be the best way to get Guiliani. Hell, everybody in D.C. has broken it in one way or the other.
     
  23. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    That's only a matter of time. By all appearances Guiliani was not acting as Trump's personal attorney but as a 'fixer'. Trump has shown that his loyalty to individuals playing that role stops when the heat reaches him.
     
  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts



    A few facts through which to see this subject.
     
  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

  26. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    So Joe, his son, and his CoS all are corrupt? Seems plausible.
     
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  27. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Which part of the post are facts? It's always tough to discern facts when wrapped in extreme partisan opinion.

    Since I didn't know this guy from Adam or Ann I checked out his Wikipedia page. Assuming I got the right guy I'm trying to ascertain how someone goes from being an academic on 19th century British Secularism to modern day politics, specifically Oil and Gas policy.
     
  28. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    He was a Marxist scholar who started questioning the ideology at NYU. Then he was forced out and now he writes about Marxism to criticize it. Smart guy, who experienced bullying and turned against his bullies.

    SH, you probably won't like him.
     
  29. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    So, triggered?
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Pelosi in 1998
    Quite the contrast - no, not just the bad hair
     
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